Realistically - where do the Sens end up on Draft Day?

504Heater wrote:

Urkie wrote:asq is convincing me to like Cowen. I see the potential now that you've mentioned it and the upside he really has. If we get him then that would be awesome. He could be the next Shea Weber.

Me too. Not Weber though...much less offense...like a J-Bo light (my favourite comparison these days).

SensGirl11 wrote:

504Heater wrote:There's...16 games left I believe for the Sens, they currently sit with 64 points. Where do they realistically end up on draft day? Where do they select?

Clouston is doing a great job, but can he sustain it down the final stretch? And if so, can we fall right out of the top 10?

It's really hard to say, good question.

I am going to go ahead and say that we DO NOT fall out of the top 10. Regardless of how we play the rest of the way, I think we've dug ourselves a big enough hole to not fall out of the top 10. With the way games have been going of late, with Atlanta winning some games and the Islanders and the other teams in the bottom 6 winning (some of them anyway) and us winning, it's not changing much in the standings...everyone is pretty much staying put. I don't think we've budged from 12th place even during our 4 game winning streak.

We're definitely good for a top 10 pick, IMO.

All of the bottom 4 in the east are on winning streaks and not budging from their positions, with the exception possibly of Atlanta (i can't remember where they were 1 week ago)

In the West the bottom 4 are on losing streaks. (BTW, I think Phoenix are tanking on purpose too, smart move)

I think the closest we get to moving positions is by overtaking Toronto's spot in 11th. Even then, I don't think it'll happen.

504Heater wrote:

Urkie wrote:asq is convincing me to like Cowen. I see the potential now that you've mentioned it and the upside he really has. If we get him then that would be awesome. He could be the next Shea Weber.

Me too. Not Weber though...much less offense...like a J-Bo light (my favourite comparison these days).

504Heater wrote:

Urkie wrote:asq is convincing me to like Cowen. I see the potential now that you've mentioned it and the upside he really has. If we get him then that would be awesome. He could be the next Shea Weber.

Me too. Not Weber though...much less offense...like a J-Bo light (my favourite comparison these days).

asq2 wrote:

504Heater wrote:

Urkie wrote:asq is convincing me to like Cowen. I see the potential now that you've mentioned it and the upside he really has. If we get him then that would be awesome. He could be the next Shea Weber.

Me too. Not Weber though...much less offense...like a J-Bo light (my favourite comparison these days).

He looks to be stronger defensively than JayBo.

EDIT: Plus, he's a Memorial Cup Champion. JayBo never even made the playoffs in Junior.

Urkie wrote:Weber wasn't always a stud offensively though. That's part of the reason he didn't go in the first round during his draft year. It came too him from just playing more and more. I think that the same could happen with Cowen and the fact that he was a key factor in Spokane's Memorial Cup win is huge. Winning in junior is a big deal imo and the way he played showed that he has some serious heart and leadership ability. He could turn into the next Chara almost because he's already 6'5" at 18.

I think it was asq that brought it up but say we did draft Cowen. That would give us Cowen and Karlsson to man the point for over a decade. That could easily turn into what we had before in Chara and Redden only it could be better.

marakh wrote:I dont see why it would be such a bad thing to go something like 10-12, Cody Hodgson got picked 10th and he wasnt even ranked higher than that by the scouts IIRC. how do we know a guy like Kassian or a dude like Glennie aren't the next getzlafes? Why are Parise, Getzlaf and Richards better than Michalek, Zherdev and Kostytsin?

Top 10 pick is nice, not the beginnign and end of the world.

marakh wrote:

504Heater wrote:

Urkie wrote:asq is convincing me to like Cowen. I see the potential now that you've mentioned it and the upside he really has. If we get him then that would be awesome. He could be the next Shea Weber.

Me too. Not Weber though...much less offense...like a J-Bo light (my favourite comparison these days).

Weber had 18 points in 70 games the year he was drafted, in the WHL. Just saying ^^.
Cowen, in the same league, has 21 points in 48 games. Even Phaneuf had only 30 points that year. HE had 60 last year

I still think Defensemen are about development more than drafting. Both Phaneuf and Weber spent 2 more years in the WHL before going pro.

SensFan71 wrote:a lot can be said about rushing prospects, say, Luke Schenn, Toronto has him up in the big show now, and it seems he is doing alright, but something can be said for pushing an 18 year old too soon. The WHL is a good league to develop into a tougher defensemen too, and this is just coming from hearsay on my part, the Q is more skill, same with the OHL, but the WHL is were the tougher players come out of.

Urkie wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:a lot can be said about rushing prospects, say, Luke Schenn, Toronto has him up in the big show now, and it seems he is doing alright, but something can be said for pushing an 18 year old too soon. The WHL is a good league to develop into a tougher defensemen too, and this is just coming from hearsay on my part, the Q is more skill, same with the OHL, but the WHL is were the tougher players come out of.

I don't know if Luke Schenn will ever develop an offensive game now. I personally think he needed another year or 2 to be fully ready. You have to give defensemen time to develop. Especially since it's not like Toronto needed him this year anyway. They have plenty of time to develop players and try and rebuild.