Who will get the C in Ottawa?

rooneypoo wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:This is tricky business, this dealing with a leadership & team in a veteran-to-youth transitional stage, as we're seeing in SJ.

Phillips and Neil have been good soldiers and are good leaders, but they are not the future (or even the present, really) of this team. If you could erase/forget everything else and just focus on the play on the ice last year, you'd probably have to divvy up the 2 As and C between Karlsson, Turris, and MacArthur. But that's a tough move to make. But if you give it to Phillips, it sends a weird message about no culture change ('more of the same') and doesn't acknowledge the clear movement toward youth ('more of the old guard'). And it also looks like he's just a placeholder.

Lots of potential for hurt feelings here. The optics of what SJ is doing right now are bad, largely because it sounds like they didn't talk to Thornton or Marleau about this, but it also is a powerful statement about breaking with the past and seeing who steps up to lead.

It will take some savvy management of people, feelings, expectations, etc., to hit the right note with all this, inside the dressing room and with the larger public.

Doesn't this contradict the give it to Philips coment you just made?

I should have prefaced that last post with a 'you know what, I've changed my mind on this.' I have. Phillips, done.

SeawaySensFan wrote:The important thing is the right people got letters.

tim1_2 wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:This is tricky business, this dealing with a leadership & team in a veteran-to-youth transitional stage, as we're seeing in SJ.

Phillips and Neil have been good soldiers and are good leaders, but they are not the future (or even the present, really) of this team. If you could erase/forget everything else and just focus on the play on the ice last year, you'd probably have to divvy up the 2 As and C between Karlsson, Turris, and MacArthur. But that's a tough move to make. But if you give it to Phillips, it sends a weird message about no culture change ('more of the same') and doesn't acknowledge the clear movement toward youth ('more of the old guard'). And it also looks like he's just a placeholder.

Lots of potential for hurt feelings here. The optics of what SJ is doing right now are bad, largely because it sounds like they didn't talk to Thornton or Marleau about this, but it also is a powerful statement about breaking with the past and seeing who steps up to lead.

It will take some savvy management of people, feelings, expectations, etc., to hit the right note with all this, inside the dressing room and with the larger public.

Doesn't this contradict the give it to Philips coment you just made?

I should have prefaced that last post with a 'you know what, I've changed my mind on this.' I have. Phillips, done.

And this seemed to be your final answer on the subject.  Did you see this one, Dr. Poo?  

SpezDispenser wrote:I can't help feel like the next purge is the final one where Neil and Phillips play it out and pass the letters to Turris and BFR or whoever.

tim1_2 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:The important thing is the right people got letters.

Wrong. The important thing here is publicly pointing out all the people that were wrong.  I had it wrong too.  As did Poo, as did Ev.

Flo The Action wrote:did they annouce they were sticking with Phillips and Neil as assistants? i mean i understand how it could feel like a giant smack in the face if they took these letters from them but i'd like to see those letters passed on to Turris and well the second is really up for debate: bobby rye, mac, probably lazar if it gets done a few years from now.

Flo The Action wrote:did they annouce they were sticking with Phillips and Neil as assistants? i mean i understand how it could feel like a giant smack in the face if they took these letters from them but i'd like to see those letters passed on to Turris and well the second is really up for debate: bobby rye, mac, probably lazar if it gets done a few years from now.

NEELY wrote:Trying to find the post where I said Karlsson was the future captain when he was 19 or 20 and just talking in an interview. Can't find it.

Michallica wrote:Came to gmh in light of today's exciting announcements only to find a pissing contest ensue on who called what first....Cussing rtarded u guys

I was of the opinion phillips would get the 'C' but Karlsson is a fine choice.  The more i heard his interviews since he got back to ottawa, the more I was convinced he was ready.  The new era is here folks.

Michallica wrote:Came to gmh in light of today's exciting announcements only to find a pissing contest ensue on who called what first....Cussing rtarded u guys

I was of the opinion phillips would get the 'C' but Karlsson is a fine choice.  The more i heard his interviews since he got back to ottawa, the more I was convinced he was ready.  The new era is here folks.