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92 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:58 pm
Amnesia021
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Dallas News
Dallas News is reporting that this year's figure is 1.6 mill... I've only seen that number in ref to Brunstrom, so....
If that's true though, it looks like we'll be stuck with both Campoli and Regin for the next year at least...
Dallas News is reporting that this year's figure is 1.6 mill... I've only seen that number in ref to Brunstrom, so....
If that's true though, it looks like we'll be stuck with both Campoli and Regin for the next year at least...
93 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 3:59 pm
Riprock
All-Star
FWIW, SensChirp believes the Tim Kennedy ruling ($1Mx1yr) is "likely pretty similar to what Peter Regin would get in arbitration."
Well, we will find out Sunday by 9am.
Well, we will find out Sunday by 9am.
94 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:00 pm
Riprock
All-Star
I'm also not sure, but I think that it only applies to team filed arbitration. If the player elects, I don't think the league has any commitment.
In the CBA, section 12.6 Walk Away Rights;
It only says that "if a Club has elected..." and nothing about a player elected, in reference to the figure.
In the CBA, section 12.6 Walk Away Rights;
It only says that "if a Club has elected..." and nothing about a player elected, in reference to the figure.
95 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:18 pm
Amnesia021
Rookie
Dash wrote:I'm also not sure, but I think that it only applies to team filed arbitration. If the player elects, I don't think the league has any commitment.
In the CBA, section 12.6 Walk Away Rights;
It only says that "if a Club has elected..." and nothing about a player elected, in reference to the figure.
I think you have it backwards... CBA 12.10 "(e) No Club shall be entitled to walk away from any award in a Club-elected
salary arbitration."
Its confusing as heck though....
96 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:28 pm
Riprock
All-Star
It is confusing. I am going by what this says:
12.6. Walk-Away Rights.
(a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one year contract,
and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the
Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is
issued (or if a Club has any other player still eligible for
salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not
been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still
has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year
pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the
Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player,
the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to
tender to the player a Player Contract based on the award as
determined by the Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that notice, the
player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free
Agent, subject to the provisions of paragraphs (c) and (d) below.
(b) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a two year contract
and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the
Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is
issued (or, if a Club has any other player still eligible for
salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not
been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still
has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year
pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the
Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player,
the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to
tender to the player a two year Player Contract based on the
award as determined by the Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that
notice by either the player or the NHL, the player and the Club
shall enter into a one year Player Contract providing for the
Compensation set forth in the award and the player will
automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free Agent at the
conclusion of that one year Player Contract subject to the
provisions of paragraphs (c) and (d) below.
12.6. Walk-Away Rights.
(a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one year contract,
and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the
Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is
issued (or if a Club has any other player still eligible for
salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not
been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still
has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year
pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the
Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player,
the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to
tender to the player a Player Contract based on the award as
determined by the Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that notice, the
player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free
Agent, subject to the provisions of paragraphs (c) and (d) below.
(b) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a two year contract
and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the
Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is
issued (or, if a Club has any other player still eligible for
salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not
been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still
has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year
pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the
Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player,
the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to
tender to the player a two year Player Contract based on the
award as determined by the Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that
notice by either the player or the NHL, the player and the Club
shall enter into a one year Player Contract providing for the
Compensation set forth in the award and the player will
automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free Agent at the
conclusion of that one year Player Contract subject to the
provisions of paragraphs (c) and (d) below.
97 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:33 pm
Riprock
All-Star
Well, I guess the source I was using as reference (NHLFA.com) isn't up to date. According to the CBA:
12.10 Walk-Away Rights for Player-Elected Salary Arbitration.
(a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one-year SPC, and the award issued is
for $1,042,173 or more per annum, then the Club may, within forty-eight (48) hours after
the award of the Salary Arbitrator is issued (or, if a Club has any other Player still eligible
for salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not been rendered by a
Salary Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still has a walk-away right available to it in
such League Year pursuant to paragraph (c) below, forty-eight (48) hours after the award
of the Salary Arbitrator for such other Player is issued or that Player's arbitration case is
settled), notify the Player or his Certified Agent, if any, the NHLPA and the NHL in
writing, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, that it does not intend to tender to the Player
an SPC based on the award as determined by the Salary Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that
notice, the Player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free Agent.
(b) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a two-year SPC and the award issued is
for $1,042,173 or more per annum, then the Club may, within forty-eight (48) hours after
the award of the Salary Arbitrator is issued (or, if a Club has any other Player still eligible
for salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not been rendered by a
Salary Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still has a walk-away right available to it in
such League Year pursuant to paragraph (c) below, forty-eight (48) hours after the award
of the Salary Arbitrator for such other Player is issued or that arbitration case is settled),
notify the Player or his Certified Agent, if any, the NHLPA and the NHL in writing, in
accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, that it does not intend to tender to the Player a twoyear
SPC based on the award as determined by the Salary Arbitrator. Upon receipt of
that notice, the Player and the Club shall enter into a one-year SPC providing for the
compensation set forth in the award and the Player will automatically be deemed to be an
Unrestricted Free Agent at the conclusion of that one-year SPC, subject to the provisions
of paragraph (c) below.
(c) Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) above, a Club
may exercise the walk-away rights referred to therein not more than one (1) time in a
League Year in which the Club has only one (1) salary arbitration award, one (1) time in
a League Year in which the Club has two (2) salary arbitration awards, two (2) times in
any League Year in which the Club has three (3) salary arbitration awards, two (2) times
in any League Year in which the Club has four (4) salary arbitration awards, three (3)
times in any League Year in which the Club has five (5) salary arbitration awards and so
on. If a Club exercises its walk-away right with respect to a two-year award, the walkaway
right shall be deemed to be exercised in the first year of the two-year SPC.
(d) The dollar amount of $1,042,173 set forth in each of paragraphs (a) and
(b) above, shall be increased on an annual basis at the same percentage rate of increase as
the Average League Salary, with the commencement of the 2007/08 League Year being
65
the first year such increase shall take effect. By way of example, if the Average League
Salary on June 30, 2007 has increased by ten (10) percent from the Average League
Salary on June 30, 2006, then the figure of $1,042,173 stated in paragraphs (a) and (b)
above, shall be increased by ten (10) percent on June 30, 2007, and the ability of a Club
to walk-away from an arbitration award rendered after June 30, 2007, shall be adjusted
accordingly. For each League Year thereafter, a similar adjustment shall be made.
(e) No Club shall be entitled to walk away from any award in a Club-elected
salary arbitration.
12.10 Walk-Away Rights for Player-Elected Salary Arbitration.
(a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one-year SPC, and the award issued is
for $1,042,173 or more per annum, then the Club may, within forty-eight (48) hours after
the award of the Salary Arbitrator is issued (or, if a Club has any other Player still eligible
for salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not been rendered by a
Salary Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still has a walk-away right available to it in
such League Year pursuant to paragraph (c) below, forty-eight (48) hours after the award
of the Salary Arbitrator for such other Player is issued or that Player's arbitration case is
settled), notify the Player or his Certified Agent, if any, the NHLPA and the NHL in
writing, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, that it does not intend to tender to the Player
an SPC based on the award as determined by the Salary Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that
notice, the Player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free Agent.
(b) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a two-year SPC and the award issued is
for $1,042,173 or more per annum, then the Club may, within forty-eight (48) hours after
the award of the Salary Arbitrator is issued (or, if a Club has any other Player still eligible
for salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not been rendered by a
Salary Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still has a walk-away right available to it in
such League Year pursuant to paragraph (c) below, forty-eight (48) hours after the award
of the Salary Arbitrator for such other Player is issued or that arbitration case is settled),
notify the Player or his Certified Agent, if any, the NHLPA and the NHL in writing, in
accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, that it does not intend to tender to the Player a twoyear
SPC based on the award as determined by the Salary Arbitrator. Upon receipt of
that notice, the Player and the Club shall enter into a one-year SPC providing for the
compensation set forth in the award and the Player will automatically be deemed to be an
Unrestricted Free Agent at the conclusion of that one-year SPC, subject to the provisions
of paragraph (c) below.
(c) Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) above, a Club
may exercise the walk-away rights referred to therein not more than one (1) time in a
League Year in which the Club has only one (1) salary arbitration award, one (1) time in
a League Year in which the Club has two (2) salary arbitration awards, two (2) times in
any League Year in which the Club has three (3) salary arbitration awards, two (2) times
in any League Year in which the Club has four (4) salary arbitration awards, three (3)
times in any League Year in which the Club has five (5) salary arbitration awards and so
on. If a Club exercises its walk-away right with respect to a two-year award, the walkaway
right shall be deemed to be exercised in the first year of the two-year SPC.
(d) The dollar amount of $1,042,173 set forth in each of paragraphs (a) and
(b) above, shall be increased on an annual basis at the same percentage rate of increase as
the Average League Salary, with the commencement of the 2007/08 League Year being
65
the first year such increase shall take effect. By way of example, if the Average League
Salary on June 30, 2007 has increased by ten (10) percent from the Average League
Salary on June 30, 2006, then the figure of $1,042,173 stated in paragraphs (a) and (b)
above, shall be increased by ten (10) percent on June 30, 2007, and the ability of a Club
to walk-away from an arbitration award rendered after June 30, 2007, shall be adjusted
accordingly. For each League Year thereafter, a similar adjustment shall be made.
(e) No Club shall be entitled to walk away from any award in a Club-elected
salary arbitration.
98 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:34 pm
Amnesia021
Rookie
Dash wrote:It is confusing. I am going by what this says:
12.6. Walk-Away Rights.
(a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one year contract,
and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the
Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is
issued (or if a Club has any other player still eligible for
salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not
been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still
has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year
pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the
Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player,
the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to
tender to the player a Player Contract based on the award as
determined by the Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that notice, the
player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free
Agent, subject to the provisions of paragraphs (c) and (d) below.
(b) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a two year contract
and the award issued is for $550,000 or more per annum, then the
Club may, within 72 hours after the award of the Arbitrator is
issued (or, if a Club has any other player still eligible for
salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not
been rendered by an Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still
has a walk-away right available to it in such League Year
pursuant to paragraph (d) below, 72 hours after the award of the
Arbitrator for such other player is issued), notify the player,
the NHLPA and the NHL in writing that it does not intend to
tender to the player a two year Player Contract based on the
award as determined by the Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that
notice by either the player or the NHL, the player and the Club
shall enter into a one year Player Contract providing for the
Compensation set forth in the award and the player will
automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free Agent at the
conclusion of that one year Player Contract subject to the
provisions of paragraphs (c) and (d) below.
http://www.nhl.com/cba/2005-CBA.pdf
Edit: sorry, you caught it before I replied...
99 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:40 pm
Riprock
All-Star
Yup, you were right. Should have went to the source first off. So, we also know that 5 years ago the min walk-away cut off was $1,042,173, so mid-to-high $1M mark is probably right, like $1.6M SD was thinking.
100 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:49 pm
Amnesia021
Rookie
No guarantee my math is correct, but if it is, its kinda crazy to think that the League Minimum average salary has gone up by 60% in just 4 years... That'd be a nice yearly increase 
Last edited by Amnesia021 on Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:53 pm; edited 1 time in total
101 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:51 pm
Riprock
All-Star
It's League Average not League Minimum though.
102 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:52 pm
Amnesia021
Rookie
Per Team 1200, Regin signs a two-year deal, no financials
103 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:53 pm
Riprock
All-Star
Yup, the deal is done!!! You beat me to it.
http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=535168&navid=DL|OTT|home
http://senators.nhl.com/club/news.htm?id=535168&navid=DL|OTT|home
104 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:54 pm
PTFlea
Co-Founder
Yes, 2 years deal.
105 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 4:55 pm
Amnesia021
Rookie
That means he'll still have 1 more year of RFA status, no?
106 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 5:07 pm
Riprock
All-Star
He signed his ELC in 2008-09, which would have made him 22 as of Aug. 15, 2008, making him eligible for Group 2 Free Agency (which he just re-signed as). So the next group is Group 3, which states either 7 accrued seasons or of 27 years of age, neither of which will apply to Regin.
107 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Thu Jul 29, 2010 8:17 pm
SensHulk
All-Star
hope they settle with campoli before arbitration hits. Really don't want that one season trade immunity he'll get through arbitration especially with the likes of Cowen, Gryba, and Weircioch knockin' on the door
108 Re: Regin and Campoli file for arbitration Fri Jul 30, 2010 10:16 am
Amnesia021
Rookie
Michallica wrote:hope they settle with campoli before arbitration hits. Really don't want that one season trade immunity he'll get through arbitration especially with the likes of Cowen, Gryba, and Weircioch knockin' on the door
Is this true? I've tried to look through the CBA and find the relevant clause. The only mention of a 1-year trade immunity is if an offer sheet is given to an RFA and the offer is matched.
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