Regin and Campoli file for arbitration

Michallica wrote:hope they settle with campoli before arbitration hits. Really don't want that one season trade immunity he'll get through arbitration especially with the likes of Cowen, Gryba, and Weircioch knockin' on the door

Amnesia021 wrote:

Michallica wrote:hope they settle with campoli before arbitration hits. Really don't want that one season trade immunity he'll get through arbitration especially with the likes of Cowen, Gryba, and Weircioch knockin' on the door

Is this true? I've tried to look through the CBA and find the relevant clause. The only mention of a 1-year trade immunity is if an offer sheet is given to an RFA and the offer is matched.

Doggy wrote:Arbitration is just a way of settling contract disputes for RFA's. It's not a special type of contract. A player whose contract was agreed to after arbitration is no different to any other player whose contract was not. Arbitration just gives the two sides a number.

So unless they agree to a contract with a NTC, yes they can trade him.

The only thing I can think of that may have confused you is offer sheets. A player signed on a matched offer sheet can't be traded for a year I think.

Dash wrote:http://www.letsgowings.com/forums/index.php/topic/65994-antti-niemi-files-for-arbitration/page__st__140

A member there wrote the following:

Doggy wrote:Arbitration is just a way of settling contract disputes for RFA's. It's not a special type of contract. A player whose contract was agreed to after arbitration is no different to any other player whose contract was not. Arbitration just gives the two sides a number.

So unless they agree to a contract with a NTC, yes they can trade him.

The only thing I can think of that may have confused you is offer sheets. A player signed on a matched offer sheet can't be traded for a year I think.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:1.5 is close to double the low end offer by the SENs but I agree this could still get done. Perhaps 900,000 1 year and 1.1 the next?

Dash wrote:I learned something new today. Apparently, a team cannot walk-away from an arbitration ruling that is under a certain value, which is somewhere around the +$1M figure. I do not know the specific value nor did Mirtle on Twitter.

Amnesia021 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Dash wrote:I learned something new today. Apparently, a team cannot walk-away from an arbitration ruling that is under a certain value, which is somewhere around the +$1M figure. I do not know the specific value nor did Mirtle on Twitter.

Yeah I knew that rule but could never find the value you can't walk away.

I wonder if it's a set amount or determined based on either the previous salary or based on the salary request provided to the arbitrator

Dash wrote:Well, I guess the source I was using as reference (NHLFA.com) isn't up to date. According to the CBA:

12.10 Walk-Away Rights for Player-Elected Salary Arbitration.
(a) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a one-year SPC, and the award issued is
for $1,042,173 or more per annum, then the Club may, within forty-eight (48) hours after
the award of the Salary Arbitrator is issued (or, if a Club has any other Player still eligible
for salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not been rendered by a
Salary Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still has a walk-away right available to it in
such League Year pursuant to paragraph (c) below, forty-eight (48) hours after the award
of the Salary Arbitrator for such other Player is issued or that Player's arbitration case is
settled), notify the Player or his Certified Agent, if any, the NHLPA and the NHL in
writing, in accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, that it does not intend to tender to the Player
an SPC based on the award as determined by the Salary Arbitrator. Upon receipt of that
notice, the Player shall automatically be deemed to be an Unrestricted Free Agent.
(b) If a Club has elected to arbitrate a two-year SPC and the award issued is
for $1,042,173 or more per annum, then the Club may, within forty-eight (48) hours after
the award of the Salary Arbitrator is issued (or, if a Club has any other Player still eligible
for salary arbitration at that time and for whom a decision has not been rendered by a
Salary Arbitrator at that time, and the Club still has a walk-away right available to it in
such League Year pursuant to paragraph (c) below, forty-eight (48) hours after the award
of the Salary Arbitrator for such other Player is issued or that arbitration case is settled),
notify the Player or his Certified Agent, if any, the NHLPA and the NHL in writing, in
accordance with Exhibit 3 hereof, that it does not intend to tender to the Player a twoyear
SPC based on the award as determined by the Salary Arbitrator. Upon receipt of
that notice, the Player and the Club shall enter into a one-year SPC providing for the
compensation set forth in the award and the Player will automatically be deemed to be an
Unrestricted Free Agent at the conclusion of that one-year SPC, subject to the provisions
of paragraph (c) below.
(c) Notwithstanding the provisions of paragraphs (a) and (b) above, a Club
may exercise the walk-away rights referred to therein not more than one (1) time in a
League Year in which the Club has only one (1) salary arbitration award, one (1) time in
a League Year in which the Club has two (2) salary arbitration awards, two (2) times in
any League Year in which the Club has three (3) salary arbitration awards, two (2) times
in any League Year in which the Club has four (4) salary arbitration awards, three (3)
times in any League Year in which the Club has five (5) salary arbitration awards and so
on. If a Club exercises its walk-away right with respect to a two-year award, the walkaway
right shall be deemed to be exercised in the first year of the two-year SPC.
(d) The dollar amount of $1,042,173 set forth in each of paragraphs (a) and
(b) above, shall be increased on an annual basis at the same percentage rate of increase as
the Average League Salary, with the commencement of the 2007/08 League Year being
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the first year such increase shall take effect. By way of example, if the Average League
Salary on June 30, 2007 has increased by ten (10) percent from the Average League
Salary on June 30, 2006, then the figure of $1,042,173 stated in paragraphs (a) and (b)
above, shall be increased by ten (10) percent on June 30, 2007, and the ability of a Club
to walk-away from an arbitration award rendered after June 30, 2007, shall be adjusted
accordingly. For each League Year thereafter, a similar adjustment shall be made.
(e) No Club shall be entitled to walk away from any award in a Club-elected
salary arbitration.

rooneypoo wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:1.5 is close to double the low end offer by the SENs but I agree this could still get done. Perhaps 900,000 1 year and 1.1 the next?

Eerily nice guess.

rooneypoo wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:1.5 is close to double the low end offer by the SENs but I agree this could still get done. Perhaps 900,000 1 year and 1.1 the next?

Eerily nice guess.

Dash wrote:Where would we put Sutton?

Gonchar-Phillips
Karlsson-Kuba
Campoli-Carkner

There's no room nor need for Sutton.

Dash wrote:Where would we put Sutton?

Gonchar-Phillips
Karlsson-Kuba
Campoli-Carkner

There's no room nor need for Sutton.

Amnesia021 wrote:That means he'll still have 1 more year of RFA status, no?