Regin and Campoli file for arbitration

rooneypoo wrote:BM gets all three key RFAs -- Foligno, Regin, and Campoli -- re-signed for under $4 mil (just $3.6 mil, to be precise).

F'ing well done.

Regin is the only guy I wish we had given a longer term.

111519 wrote:im just saying with that defence the game plan against Ottawa will be dump and chase and hammer our D. We just do not have enough grit back there to protect a one goal lead-and we don't have a goalie who has shown himself strong enough to work with a D that will have a hard time clearing the front of the net. After Carkner and maybe Phillips there is not much strength back there.

rooneypoo wrote:

111519 wrote:im just saying with that defence the game plan against Ottawa will be dump and chase and hammer our D. We just do not have enough grit back there to protect a one goal lead-and we don't have a goalie who has shown himself strong enough to work with a D that will have a hard time clearing the front of the net. After Carkner and maybe Phillips there is not much strength back there.

I keep hearing this argument against OTT, but no one ever makes it for, say, DET. How rough and tumble was DET's D when they won the cup three years ago? I think Stuart was the closest thing they had to a 'tough' D. Kronvall can hit, but no one's going to mistake him for Chris Phillips.

Good puck management, smart stick positioning, and speed can and does do the trick. It's not that it's not a good thing to have around, but toughness on the D can be over-rated -- and teams can and do win without it.

rooneypoo wrote:
I keep hearing this argument against OTT, but no one ever makes it for, say, DET. How rough and tumble was DET's D when they won the cup three years ago? I think Stuart was the closest thing they had to a 'tough' D. Kronvall can hit, but no one's going to mistake him for Chris Phillips.

Good puck management, smart stick positioning, and speed can and does do the trick. It's not that it's not a good thing to have around, but toughness on the D can be over-rated -- and teams can and do win without it.

CockRoche wrote:I'm pissed I missed all this discussion. From CBA stuff to the signings to our situation going forward.

Darnit.

rooneypoo wrote:BM gets all three key RFAs -- Foligno, Regin, and Campoli -- re-signed for under $4 mil (just $3.6 mil, to be precise).

F'ing well done.

Regin is the only guy I wish we had given a longer term.

wprager wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:BM gets all three key RFAs -- Foligno, Regin, and Campoli -- re-signed for under $4 mil (just $3.6 mil, to be precise).

F'ing well done.

Regin is the only guy I wish we had given a longer term.

I could be wrong, but I think a third year on Regin's term would have been a UFA year and that would have probablu doubled the cap hit ($3M in year 3).

rooneypoo wrote:
According to CapGeek, Regin will still be an RFA come the expiration of this new contract.

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
I can't believe you're advocating trading Campoli away for spare parts. It's waaaay too early to give up on that guy, especially after now he played the last 2 months or so. The guy can be reasonably physical, is speedy, and moves the puck well -- pretty good attributes for a bottom pair guy.

If he signs for $1 mil or so, we're going to have a pretty decent 3rd pairing -- physicality and toughness with Carkner, mobility and puck movement with Campoli -- for under $2 mil. Lefty/righty pairing, too. Sounds good to me.

If/when Cowen or one of our other young guys seriously outplays Campoli, then I can see us trading Campoli -- but I hope the return is a lot better than a career AHL d-man. But not before.

There's lots of talk about Cowen (or Gryba, or whoever) making the big team. Yeah, well, I'll believe it when I see it. Once Campoli is signed, that's 7 D on one way deals. Even if Lee is traded, Cowen is not being brought out to sit out alternate nights with Carkner or whoever. Cowen needs to land a spot in the top 6, or he won't be playing. The mighty one-way deal rules all.

If you ask me, our D this season will be

Phillips - Gonchar
Kuba - Karlsson
Campoli - Carkner
Lee

Campoli will sign a short-term, inexpensive deal -- say, under $1.5 mil for 2 years. He'll help fill a real need for a short time. After that time, once guys like Cowen and Runblad and Weircioch are ready, Campoli will either have proven himself to be too good to lose, and we'll have some tough decisions to make, OR he'll be deemed replaceable.

I'd rather have Sutton than Campoli by a country mile. I'm not hurting if it's Campoli, but I'd MUCH prefer Sutton. He's simply better IMO.

111519 wrote:would boston be interested in a savard for kuba deal

rooneypoo wrote:

111519 wrote:would boston be interested in a savard for kuba deal

100% no.

SpezDispenser wrote:I'm not sure people understand what a 'soft' trade means. It means Boston will pretty much give Savard away, but THEY WILL NOT TAKE SALARY BACK.

Flo The Action wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:I'm not sure people understand what a 'soft' trade means. It means Boston will pretty much give Savard away, but THEY WILL NOT TAKE SALARY BACK.

we send them a prospect/young player with a 2nd or 3rd rounder.
i imagine we can trade kuba to another team without having to waive him if we want to make room on the team.
i still believe there's a way to make room for savard