Who does BM trade?

Kovalfie wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:I still would like to give more evaluation time to Cheechoo before deciding if he should be traded or not, he has only 2 assists so far I know, but the effort has been there and he is doing the small things right, the rest will fall in place. he will not be scoring 56 goals again anytime soon, but 20 to 25 is fine by me.

Do you think he'll even reach that many? I mean, we've set him up playing with two elite players and he's still not producing. Thinking to the end of the season, I can see Spezza and Michalek putting up numbers in the 80-90 point range, but I just can't see Cheechoo putting up similar numbers, maybe 40-50 at the absolute most. People say he was a victim of San Jose's depth last year but I just can't buy into that. Cheechoo is a product of the Joe Thornton effect the same way Glen Murray and Mike Knuble were and Devon Setoguchi will be. Heatley will have a career year this year I can guarantee it (barring some sort of freak injury)

I don't want to start speculating and throwing outlandish rumors out there but I would almost look to LA to see if we can work something out for Frolov; something along the lines of Zubov, Cheechoo and a 2nd for Frolov and a conditional pick. I don't think Cheechoo is going to work out here and his and Frolov's cap hits are virtually the same. Zubov isn't cracking this roster any time soon and he might get a look in LA if he doesn't take off to/stay in the KHL.

Jordo wrote:

Kovalfie wrote:

Jordo wrote:I think the Yashin trade could very well go down as THE worst trade in NHL history. Perhaps next to the Lindros trade.

I dunno. Olli Jokinen and Roberto Luongo for Mark Parrish and Oleg Kvasha was a pretty bad trade.

Can we agree that Mike Milbury is the worst GM in NHL history?

Haha he's definitely up there. I'll definitely give him worst broadcaster/personality in NHL history. Honorable mention to Bob Cole and Harry Neale, and Guy Carbonneau after the weekend.

N4L wrote:

Jordo wrote:I think the Yashin trade could very well go down as THE worst trade in NHL history. Perhaps next to the Lindros trade.

Lindros got Philly to the finals and years of playoff hockey, Yashin got bought out and is on the books for 8 years, I think that's the big difference right there.

The Yashin deal was 100% the worst/best trade in NHL history.

Jordo wrote:

N4L wrote:

Jordo wrote:I think the Yashin trade could very well go down as THE worst trade in NHL history. Perhaps next to the Lindros trade.

Lindros got Philly to the finals and years of playoff hockey, Yashin got bought out and is on the books for 8 years, I think that's the big difference right there.

The Yashin deal was 100% the worst/best trade in NHL history.

True, but Colorado won cups in 96, and 2001.

You just don't see trades like that anymore. Just in case anyone forgot:

To Philly:
Eric Lindros

To Quebec/Colorado:
Peter Forsberg
Mike Ricci
Steve Duchesne
Kerry Huffman
Chris Simon
Ron Hextall
$15 million
Two first round draft picks

N4L wrote:

Jordo wrote:I think the Yashin trade could very well go down as THE worst trade in NHL history. Perhaps next to the Lindros trade.

Lindros got Philly to the finals and years of playoff hockey, Yashin got bought out and is on the books for 8 years, I think that's the big difference right there.

The Yashin deal was 100% the worst/best trade in NHL history.

marakh wrote:

N4L wrote:

Jordo wrote:I think the Yashin trade could very well go down as THE worst trade in NHL history. Perhaps next to the Lindros trade.

Lindros got Philly to the finals and years of playoff hockey, Yashin got bought out and is on the books for 8 years, I think that's the big difference right there.

The Yashin deal was 100% the worst/best trade in NHL history.

The 2 firsts Burke traded for Kessel might very well become Taylor Hall and Adam Larsson, who, if they reach their potential, could challenge the Yashin trade.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:I still would like to give more evaluation time to Cheechoo before deciding if he should be traded or not, he has only 2 assists so far I know, but the effort has been there and he is doing the small things right, the rest will fall in place. he will not be scoring 56 goals again anytime soon, but 20 to 25 is fine by me.

Me too. He's playing really hard as well - I like that. And is it me, or has his skating steadily improved? I like him to hit 20 goals as well - and that's fine. Maybe more if he can stick on Spezza's line, but I'm okay with 1 goal in every 4 games.

We were also told that he was streaky as all hell by SJ fans, so he'll explode at some point I would imagine and go for it.

I can't wait for him to net one actually, it'll take a lot of weight off him and off Spezza as well I think.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Don't forget that Cheechoo also knows the definition of back-check without having to reach for a dictionary.

wprager wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Don't forget that Cheechoo also knows the definition of back-check without having to reach for a dictionary.

Well, yeah, but I'm not comparing Cheechoo to Heatley. You could put pretty much anyone on this team in that spot alongside Spezza and Michalek and they'd be backchecking, skating and not scoring as well as Cheechoo. Cheechoo has a history as a triggerman and the only explanations I'd heard as to why it is beginning to look like ancient history is that his skating is not at NHL level. He was injured and he lost his place on the top line, but that excuse is 2 years old. He hasn't done enough to get back on that top line and I want to know why. Certainly his skating (at least in the last few games) does not look like a good enough reason.

So, is it possible that he is *only now* properly recovered and rehabbed from whatever injuries he had?