Schneider waived

Cronenbergfan wrote:honestly Bigrig, I have NO idea.

I've heard both: one guy seems to think Murray is still after a PMD and PP QB; while another side feels that he's targetting a top 6 to truly create a legitimate 2ndary scoring threat.

I really don't know, but hypothesizing about who could be coming, and what salary or player(s) have to be moved is tiring!

I'll see what I can find out in the next few hours... Hopefully, I'll be back this evening with news, good news, but if not, I'll be around tomorrow morning!

Murray said the other day the only thing he's looking for is a PMD, not a top 6 forward. It wouldn't surprise me to see the Kings swap him up before we get the chance.

504Heater wrote:

Cronenbergfan wrote:Oh crap! If Tampa snags him, suddenly their sloppy D just got better!

What is Murray doing? What? Trade Kuba, grab Schneider and you're set. If he gets injured, that's what the kids are for.

Why are you so hell bent on trading Kuba? I really like Kuba.

Not to mention flipping players is not a good thing to do.

jamvan wrote:
Why are you so hell bent on trading Kuba? I really like Kuba.

Fear. He's...good, but he's in shock that he got traded and it sounds to me like he isn't exactly pleased.

Schenider is a future Hall of Famer who last year was still a plus 22 with a ton of points, despite being injured.

Who better to teach kids like Picard and Lee the facts of running the PP than a future HOF D-man?

Plus with Heatley, Spezza, Fisher, Alfie and Schneider manning the point on the PP, how many points could he get? 65?

It's a no-brainer for me. Kuba would be gone, Schneider would be in and we'd be prepping for some serious PP damage right now.

I should follow that up my saying I think Kuba will be good, I think we'll be a hard team to play against and be really competitive.

It's just my opinion that Schneider makes us (a lot) better. However, Murray knows best...

I'd also scratch St. Louis, Vancouver, Edmonton, Nashville and Carolina off the list.

504Heater wrote:

jamvan wrote:
Why are you so hell bent on trading Kuba? I really like Kuba.

Fear. He's...good, but he's in shock that he got traded and it sounds to me like he isn't exactly pleased.

Schenider is a future Hall of Famer who last year was still a plus 22 with a ton of points, despite being injured.

Who better to teach kids like Picard and Lee the facts of running the PP than a future HOF D-man?

Plus with Heatley, Spezza, Fisher, Alfie and Schneider manning the point on the PP, how many points could he get? 65?

It's a no-brainer for me. Kuba would be gone, Schneider would be in and we'd be prepping for some serious PP damage right now.

Its weird: I've always kind of put Kuba in the Volchenkov/Phillips/Smith category, despite the fact that he's more of an offensive kind of guy, and he never really fit the other side, for me - the Lee/Picard side.
Like if we were to split it 1 PMD with 1 SD, we already have one SD on each pairing, but it only feels like we have 2 PMD with 1 hybrid or something...

When you put it as you did above ^ I can't help but agree with you.
I like the look of Phillips - Kuba, but I really like the look of
Phillips - Schneider
Volchenkov - Lee
Smith - Picard

504Heater wrote:

jamvan wrote:
Why are you so hell bent on trading Kuba? I really like Kuba.

Fear. He's...good, but he's in shock that he got traded and it sounds to me like he isn't exactly pleased.

Schenider is a future Hall of Famer who last year was still a plus 22 with a ton of points, despite being injured.

Who better to teach kids like Picard and Lee the facts of running the PP than a future HOF D-man?

Plus with Heatley, Spezza, Fisher, Alfie and Schneider manning the point on the PP, how many points could he get? 65?

It's a no-brainer for me. Kuba would be gone, Schneider would be in and we'd be prepping for some serious PP damage right now.

Schneider is real good offensively, but he's extremely soft as well. I wouldn't be against acquiring him.

I think Kuba is just fine with the moves now, especially after getting a call from Torts, he is now primed to take his game to the next level.

I think it's almost a guarantee that the Kings will swap him up anyway. They have to spend and a 1 year deal at $5 + gets them very close. It works perfectly for their situation.

On a side note, I think this is really going to set things in motion. People are tired of waiting on Sundin and now there will likely be some shuffling going on. I hope so anyways

I doubt the LA Kings need to go spend-thrift happy as much as people are making them out to. If they re-sign O'Sullivan to anything over 2 million per year (which they almost certainly will), they are set for this year in terms of meeting the salary floor
Besides, wouldn't it make a lot more sense for teams to wait for Schneider to come back up through re-entry waivers and take half a cap hit rather than absorb the full 5.625 million?

If a team wants him, they won't wait. Especially if you're a team further up in the priority and he comes around to you, then you take him.

It would be a serious kick in the pants if he got to us and Murray snatched him up, after backing out of the Neil trade :lol!:

:x Take that Burke!

cash wrote:It would be a serious kick in the pants if he got to us and Murray snatched him up, after backing out of the Neil trade :lol!:

:x Take that Burke!

LOL. After all that it would be hilarious.

PKC wrote:I doubt the LA Kings need to go spend-thrift happy as much as people are making them out to. If they re-sign O'Sullivan to anything over 2 million per year (which they almost certainly will), they are set for this year in terms of meeting the salary floor
Besides, wouldn't it make a lot more sense for teams to wait for Schneider to come back up through re-entry waivers and take half a cap hit rather than absorb the full 5.625 million?

No way in hell ANA puts Schneider on re-entry waivers. That doesn't just happen; you put him there, calling him back up to the team. There's no way Burke would risk having to take on half of Schneider's big salary.

No one is getting Schneider at half-price. He will be claimed tomorrow at noon.

rooneypoo wrote:
No way in hell ANA puts Schneider on re-entry waivers. That doesn't just happen; you put him there, calling him back up to the team. There's no way Burke would risk having to take on half of Schneider's big salary.

No one is getting Schneider at half-price. He will be claimed tomorrow at noon.

Huge chance of it happening. If no GM takes him by chance - and there is a chance of that - then the Ducks would still have to pay his salary against the cap (because he is 35 and healthy). He better clear...

I can't imagine him getting passed Phoenix. He would legitimize them in a big-Big way!

cash wrote:I can't imagine him getting passed Phoenix. He would legitimize them in a big-Big way!

I agree, but Anaheim has got to prepare for the possibility that no one would give them even a 7th round pick - and thus, why would anyone take him in the first pass at waivers.

Does Phoenix have a pretty serious internal cap? They'd have to be because they're only at 43 million. Maybe their internal cap is 45, Schneider would push it to almost 49, which is unacceptable.

Columbus is already at 48 and they definately have an internal cap.

Let's say LA just...doesn't want to spend 6 million dollars on a mentor for the kids.

San Jose is arse rammed against the cap, same with Washington, Montreal, Philly etc. etc. etc.

Hmmm...perhaps the plot thickens a little.