Big Names On The Move...or Not?

Neely4Life wrote:I think Elliott will be resigned and Auld will be dealt. A team like Calgary needs a reliable backup and that is just what Auld is.

Elliott you can probably sign for 1-3 years at about 650-750K.

I seriously dont see how Spezza is going to fit into the team concept here in Ottawa and the new approch they are taking to defense. I also dont see how Smith is going to fit in with that contract and what he brings as the 5th, 6th D man. Between the 2 of them, thats freeing up almost 10 mil, not to mention the money you save dealing Auld and not having Brian Lee up here.

This team will soon go from being stacked up front to being stacked in the back end, goaltenders and defense. Ottawa will still have 2, 100pt guys up front and who knows what will happen with some kids in our organization. Thats how this team will be able to compete on a high level and for a long time.

Phoenix30 wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I think Elliott will be resigned and Auld will be dealt. A team like Calgary needs a reliable backup and that is just what Auld is.

Elliott you can probably sign for 1-3 years at about 650-750K.

I seriously dont see how Spezza is going to fit into the team concept here in Ottawa and the new approch they are taking to defense. I also dont see how Smith is going to fit in with that contract and what he brings as the 5th, 6th D man. Between the 2 of them, thats freeing up almost 10 mil, not to mention the money you save dealing Auld and not having Brian Lee up here.

This team will soon go from being stacked up front to being stacked in the back end, goaltenders and defense. Ottawa will still have 2, 100pt guys up front and who knows what will happen with some kids in our organization. Thats how this team will be able to compete on a high level and for a long time.

Elliott is already making 942,400 and is an RFA. I don't think he'll sign for less money but rather get a raise in which case he could be a target for an RFA contract. As well I think Ottawa is required to offer him a minimum of 10% more on his contract to qualify him since he is an RFA.

Neely4Life wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I think Elliott will be resigned and Auld will be dealt. A team like Calgary needs a reliable backup and that is just what Auld is.

Elliott you can probably sign for 1-3 years at about 650-750K.

I seriously dont see how Spezza is going to fit into the team concept here in Ottawa and the new approch they are taking to defense. I also dont see how Smith is going to fit in with that contract and what he brings as the 5th, 6th D man. Between the 2 of them, thats freeing up almost 10 mil, not to mention the money you save dealing Auld and not having Brian Lee up here.

This team will soon go from being stacked up front to being stacked in the back end, goaltenders and defense. Ottawa will still have 2, 100pt guys up front and who knows what will happen with some kids in our organization. Thats how this team will be able to compete on a high level and for a long time.

Elliott is already making 942,400 and is an RFA. I don't think he'll sign for less money but rather get a raise in which case he could be a target for an RFA contract. As well I think Ottawa is required to offer him a minimum of 10% more on his contract to qualify him since he is an RFA.

Elliott will not be making more than 1 mil a year, thats for sure. Plus, he could very well be the goaltender of the future (maybe present) for Ottawa. There is no way Elliott will be making more than, say, Halak in Montreal. That is his best comparable right now, which is around 750K I believe.

Ottawa not resigning Elliott would be an epic mistake, especially if its only a 250K diff.

Neely4Life wrote:I dont think any team will offer him the starters job honestly. Most teams are set in that aspect, teams are looking for a backup, and Auld is that guy IMO. Reliable, good team guy, no distraction, can win games, 1 year @ 1 mil. Prob worth a 4th rounder to a team like Calgary.

Phoenix30 wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I dont think any team will offer him the starters job honestly. Most teams are set in that aspect, teams are looking for a backup, and Auld is that guy IMO. Reliable, good team guy, no distraction, can win games, 1 year @ 1 mil. Prob worth a 4th rounder to a team like Calgary.

I'll have to disagree with you. As previously mentioned there are several teams that could be looking for a starter: Boston, Philly, Oilers, Detriot, Colorado, Kings (maybe), and Caps (could do with an upgrade) could be in the market for a goalie.

Elliott has demonstrated he could be a starter and if on a team with solid defence would be a good cheap option for those up against the cap. A rival team could offer him enough money to lure him but yet still be a reasonable cap hit. If Murray can't get him signed before July 1 then he'll have to decide what to do before July 1.

504Heater wrote:Honestly, there is no team in the NHL that would get in Ottawa's way and throw money at Elliott. Halak was the perfect chance for teams and no one did anything. I would be shocked if someone offered Elliott a contract.

504Heater wrote:Honestly, there is no team in the NHL that would get in Ottawa's way and throw money at Elliott. Halak was the perfect chance for teams and no one did anything. I would be shocked if someone offered Elliott a contract.

davetherave wrote:
How about Colorado or Toronto (just to name two)? Why wouldn't they be interested?

Phoenix30 wrote:
Halak was in a different time when there wasn't a huge need for goalies. This year there are several teams that could look to upgrade or replace current UFA ones.

Neely4Life wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I dont think any team will offer him the starters job honestly. Most teams are set in that aspect, teams are looking for a backup, and Auld is that guy IMO. Reliable, good team guy, no distraction, can win games, 1 year @ 1 mil. Prob worth a 4th rounder to a team like Calgary.

I'll have to disagree with you. As previously mentioned there are several teams that could be looking for a starter: Boston, Philly, Oilers, Detriot, Colorado, Kings (maybe), and Caps (could do with an upgrade) could be in the market for a goalie.

Elliott has demonstrated he could be a starter and if on a team with solid defence would be a good cheap option for those up against the cap. A rival team could offer him enough money to lure him but yet still be a reasonable cap hit. If Murray can't get him signed before July 1 then he'll have to decide what to do before July 1.

Boston has Rask, even if both their current goalies take off (which would eliminate 2 other starting jobs) Rask is the next one there. Detroit will prob make a pitch for Fernandez IMO. Colorado and Washington are really the only 2 teams desperate for goaltenders and even then, there are some more expierenced guys available without having to give up draft pic(s) to get them.

504Heater wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:
Halak was in a different time when there wasn't a huge need for goalies. This year there are several teams that could look to upgrade or replace current UFA ones.

I really like Elliott a lot, I think he'll be great. But he's a solid 2 years away from being a difference maker. If you're Colorado or Washington, you need to find a true upgrade from what you already have - now - and that's not Elliott IMO (yet!).

504Heater wrote:

Phoenix30 wrote:
Halak was in a different time when there wasn't a huge need for goalies. This year there are several teams that could look to upgrade or replace current UFA ones.

I really like Elliott a lot, I think he'll be great. But he's a solid 2 years away from being a difference maker. If you're Colorado or Washington, you need to find a true upgrade from what you already have - now - and that's not Elliott IMO (yet!).

504Heater wrote:

davetherave wrote:
How about Colorado or Toronto (just to name two)? Why wouldn't they be interested?

I'm not saying they wouldn't be interested at all, but I doubt they throw picks Ottawa's way to try to sign him to an offer sheet. Why bother? There will be more seasoned goaltenders available in the summer without poaching a 23 year old who may or may not turn out - giving up picks in the process.

If Toronto wants a quick fix, then sign Khabby to a 1 year. Or Colorado for that matter. Throw 5 million at him for one year and hope it works.

davetherave wrote:You just gave 5 million reasons why they might try to snag Elliott instead.