3 STARS SELECTION + GDT: Ottawa Senators @ New York Rangers (Dec 5th, 2010)

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
Oh settle down, it needed to be done and was the right call. You don't sit Foligno because he hits and fore checks hard, and his been one of our better forwards lately. You don't sit Shannon because the guy works his Donkey of every shift. Ditto Winchester, who (with Foligno and Neil) was part of the best OTT line the night before. I could have understood benching Ruutu, but CC was clearly planning on putting OTT's best and most consistent line (Kelly, Ruutu, Neil) back together (the started the game together) -- and look how that worked out.

Regin has had a ton of games playing in the top 3. He hasn't produced a lot (1 goal in that span), and he's not the sort of guy who goes out and hits and fore checks hard -- so if he's not producing, it makes sense that he sits.

You're making much ado about not very much here.

Oh Roon. I know all that, it's damn lucky for Clouston it all worked out though, benching a young player for not working hard enough is one thing, benching a young player because he's not scoring despite the effort is quite another.

If you knew all that, then you shouldn't have posted that other inane comment.

wprager wrote:Like I said earlier, SD's sig is the culprit. He's got to "defend" it daily

wprager wrote: By the way, I just read someone's tweet -- Kelly also scored a hat-trick in pre-season. Guess which team they were playing at the time? Just guess. Come on!

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:
Oh settle down, it needed to be done and was the right call. You don't sit Foligno because he hits and fore checks hard, and his been one of our better forwards lately. You don't sit Shannon because the guy works his Donkey of every shift. Ditto Winchester, who (with Foligno and Neil) was part of the best OTT line the night before. I could have understood benching Ruutu, but CC was clearly planning on putting OTT's best and most consistent line (Kelly, Ruutu, Neil) back together (the started the game together) -- and look how that worked out.

Regin has had a ton of games playing in the top 3. He hasn't produced a lot (1 goal in that span), and he's not the sort of guy who goes out and hits and fore checks hard -- so if he's not producing, it makes sense that he sits.

You're making much ado about not very much here.

Oh Roon. I know all that, it's damn lucky for Clouston it all worked out though, benching a young player for not working hard enough is one thing, benching a young player because he's not scoring despite the effort is quite another.

If you knew all that, then you shouldn't have posted that other inane comment.

Why was he benched then? Because he's not scoring or because he wasn't competing hard enough? If it was lack of scoring then Foligno should have been benched, because CLEARLY Regin is the better two-way player.

rooneypoo wrote:
One word: HITTING. Foligno does it, Regin doesn't. This team is playing WAY too soft lately. You don't take out one of the only guys hitting, banging bodies, creating space and opportunities. That goes for Foligno, Winchester, and Neil.

Again, if you're not producing, you need to be doing everything else well. Regin was not. He has not looked all that good, and he is not being physical at all. That makes he more expendable that Foligno and a number of other guys on the team.

Regin will recover, don't worry.

wprager wrote:Is the Sens website correct? Is Regin *really* 6'2" and 205 lbs? I couldn't believe that when I read it earlier.

Hoags wrote:Butler's an RFA after this year, I think they need to give him a look to see how he fares in the NHL and if/how much to sign him for.

For all of Regin's pluses, he's not producing. He's been at it since last year and hasn't really 'arrived' yet.

If it weren't for his playoff performance he'd be a permanent feature in our pressbox.

SpezDispenser wrote:

If it weren't for his track record of producing in the AHL and the fact that he plays a solid 2 way game, he'd be a press box guy, but he's got a lot to offer.

SpezDispenser wrote:Regin hits, he gets involved in the corners. I think Rooney's point was that Foligno hits *more*.

wprager wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Regin hits, he gets involved in the corners. I think Rooney's point was that Foligno hits *more*.

Regin doesn't hit, not even close. Kelly hits more even with less ice time. Kelly has also take more shots on goal than Regin. Not per-game, but in total.

The afore-mentioned Kuba has one hit less than Regin, and Regin has played more than twice as many games.

Ryan freakin' Shannon has double the hits.

Regin is outhitting Spezza -- by one hit. Point is, he's just like Spezza but with less talent. I'm not saying he doesn't belong, but if he's on the top line with Spezza that line is too soft, and all the hitting is left to Alfie and his aging carcass.