GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Atlanta Thrashers - 7:00pm ET - Tue. Jan. 12th, 2010

Wow, this one hurt. Have to go play NHL 2010 and shake it off.

I wouldn't be stunned to see Murray trade the 1st rd. pick or Wiercioch to obtain a stud forward prospect. This is only because the top four prospects are defensive prospects with none at forward. (Karlsson, Lehner, Wiercioch, Cowen)

Flo The Action wrote:

Urkie wrote:

Jordo wrote:No offense, but this is Dung.
The new NHL rewards teams that suffer for consecutive years, which you can see clearly in the Chicago's, and Washington's of the league. I'd like to see what anybody else could have done in Murray's shoes. Heatley? Kovalev (who was urged by the OWNER, his BOSS)?

There's not a lot you can do in those situations. I think Murray's done a great job, and if all of these injuries never occurred and we remained at .500 since, we'd be in 3rd/4th place, and nobody would be saying Dung.

Start thinking rationally people.

And no, I'm not related to Bryan Murray

Murray has had plenty of opportunites to improve the defense but balked at the price every time. He got his priorities wrong and it's costing us.

Also, Murray isn't here to rebuild either. He was brought in to win us a cup. If we are going to rebuild it's going to have to be a new GM.

i don't think it's as easy as you guys are making it out to be. what they gave cambell is way to high. i agre that guys like kelly, neil, kuba should of never gotten the raise/money they got. to be honest i still think we could deal without neil. don't get me wrong i love the guy but we've got carkner to fight and ruutu to instigate... that 2 mill could be used on somone else combined with waiving cheechoo.

When we re-signed Neil Carkner was a 29 year old AHL-er.

People forget pretty quickly. This team was 15-2 then fell apart because of lack of character. No injuries, no trades, nothing. Just fell from a cliff.
I don't mind Kelly and Neil here at all, in fact they have been consistently good this season. Before all our injuries we were 5th in the conference. 5th out of 15, people. WHy? Character, same effort every night, good 3rd and 4th line, goal scoring from everyone.

People are overreacting now because we are 9th and especially because of injuries? People are disappointed when they should have known exactly that this would and should happen.

dennycrane wrote:I wouldn't be stunned to see Murray trade the 1st rd. pick or Wiercioch to obtain a stud forward prospect. This is only because the top four prospects are defensive prospects with none at forward. (Karlsson, Lehner, Wiercioch, Cowen)

That 1st gets more valuable by the day. Trading it now, especially for a prospect, who won't help immediately, is really risking losing a stud in this draft. I'd wait until awhile to see where are are in the standings.

SpezDispenser wrote:There should be some changes made after this weekend and tonight. End of story. No team allows injuries to make them this bad. It's inexcusable.

I suggest you watch the "almighty" Red Wings play with their injuries

Keeping that 1st is a most as far as I am concerned. Murray can move other pieces to help build this team further.

When we re-signed Neil Carkner was a 29 year old AHL-er.

People forget pretty quickly. This team was 15-2 then fell apart because of lack of character. No injuries, no trades, nothing. Just fell from a cliff.
I don't mind Kelly and Neil here at all, in fact they have been consistently good this season. Before all our injuries we were 5th in the conference. 5th out of 15, people. WHy? Character, same effort every night, good 3rd and 4th line, goal scoring from everyone.

People are overreacting now because we are 9th and especially because of injuries? People are disappointed when they should have known exactly that this would and should happen.

KA-BLAM! +1

hemlock wrote:

dennycrane wrote:I wouldn't be stunned to see Murray trade the 1st rd. pick or Wiercioch to obtain a stud forward prospect. This is only because the top four prospects are defensive prospects with none at forward. (Karlsson, Lehner, Wiercioch, Cowen)

That 1st gets more valuable by the day. Trading it now, especially for a prospect, who won't help immediately, is really risking losing a stud in this draft. I'd wait until awhile to see where are are in the standings.

I was thinking that this would be a draft-day deal as opposed to now. If Murray trades the 1st round pick now, he is nuts or it is a deal that is just too good to be true.

hemlock wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:Asq2 - I must say good call on calling cheechoo out just like I did when that heatley trade went down. I went back and read it and you called a rotten player a rotten player. Murray has made two horrible trades in a row. If he wasn't so good on draft day, he would be gone.
Worst goalies in the league and chooch is a mess. I called it from day 1

Blah blah blah. You called from day one. We're all so proud of you.

There, there is the recognition you so obviously crave here.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Can you guess which of your posts of this thread did I quote?

wprager wrote:

cloverleaf wrote:The goaltending is EXACTLY what I said it is. Its awful. Blame Eli all you want, that is just one more way to avoid the truth. You guys amuse me.

"You guys"? We are Sens fans, and as of now, I do not count you among us. Root for your home team or the Flames and don't bother pretending the Sens are anything but an amusement to you.

God, you're more annoying that Neely going on about Spezza. I can't believe I miss that poor flu-ridden SoB.

Lol do you really believe this guy is a Calgary fan? He says he lives in Toronto and he also says he went to 5 games in Calgary this year while watching every Sens game. He also said Toronto was his second favourite team a while ago and just converted to Ottawa as the 2nd favourite team because To is a mess. Come on now.

marakh wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:There should be some changes made after this weekend and tonight. End of story. No team allows injuries to make them this bad. It's inexcusable.

I suggest you watch the "almighty" Red Wings play with their injuries

man, it's been a rough night for me.

asq2 wrote:

marakh wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:There should be some changes made after this weekend and tonight. End of story. No team allows injuries to make them this bad. It's inexcusable.

I suggest you watch the "almighty" Red Wings play with their injuries

man, it's been a rough night for me.

You can always put Gudbranson on Granlund's side of that avatar

good bye playoffs....

I'll tell you what I want to see: a team that cares and a team that's not gonna bend over and take it like that tonight. No free two points, let's try to get our heads into this a bit and get one Diddling win before Alfie etc. come back.

These guys seem incapable of competing in this league. It is embarassing how they simply give up after a bad goal and just check out of the game.

MurderOnIce wrote:These guys seem incapable of competing in this league. It is embarassing how they simply give up after a bad goal and just check out of the game.

I can put up with incapable, but the last few games they have looked unwilling. It doesn't take much skill to run around and hit a few people -- case in point, Schubert. Not that I agree with what he did, but this is a guy we let go for nothing and he is at least trying to do something. How is the Cheech, anyway? Someone said he came back?