rumours of the week

I guess not, then.

[quote="wprager"]OK, I' simply not prepared to read through five pages of rumors. Give me a quick synopsis.[/quote

Can't really remember it all. Just random trade rumours. One of them was 'suggested' by THN - Phaneuf for Spezza. Stuff like that.

ok more rumours of the week as always from the habs
from hockey 30

Selon le Ottawa Sun, le Canadien de Montréal avait demandé Jeff Carter en retour de Jaroslav Halak en décembre dernier. Les Flyers, à la recherche d'un gardien de but numéro un, aurait refusé sur-le-champ.
Par contre, Jaroslav Halak fait des miracles depuis cette date et représente maintennat l'un des meilleurs gardiens de la LNH.
Les Flyers seraient revenus à la charge dans les derniers jours. Le dg Paul Holmgren serait maintennat beaucoup plus agressif sur le marché et aurait fait d'Halak sa priorité.
Philadelphie serait prêt à donner Scott Hartnell et Claude Giroux en retour du gardien slovaque.
Bob Gainey, lui, n'est pas pressé et resterait sur ses positions: Jeff Carter ou rien.
À suivre...

basicaly gainey wanted carter in exchange for halak. flyers refused and now apparantly the flyers have offered hartnell and giroux for halak and gainey refused he wants carter . no way halak is worth carter, let alone hartnell and giroux(cap wise it doesn't work). but i would think that if there was a trade to be made giroux OR hartnell would be enough to get halak outta MTL....

more from STL

Perron vs Halak


Dimanche, 10 Janvier 2010
Par HOCKEY30.com


Selon le Edmonton sun, le Canadien de Montréal procédera à une transaction envoyant Jaroslav halak sous d'autres cieux.
On affirme que la valeur du Slovaque a monté en flèche depuis ses performances exceptionnelles et qu'il ne fait maintenant plus aucun doute qu'il représente un gardien numéro un de premier plan.
Le quotidien affirme que le Canadien serait intéressé à l'attaquant québécois David Perron.
Les Blues, eux, ont un besoin urgent devant le filet avec les vétérans Tu Conklin et Chris Mason qui ne font pas le travail. St-Louis seraient prêt à donner beaucoup pour obtenir Halak.
Le CH et les Blues auraient déjà eu des discussions à ce sujet. Bob Gainey aurait le beau jeu dans les négociations car pour l'instant, il ne ressent pas un sentiment d'urgence et veut être patient... contrairement aux Blues...
À suivre...

i could kind of see it, especially if the blues are desperate. MTL will sit on halak and continue playing him as his stock is rising... my guess he's gone before the trade deadline. perron, a francophone, would be loved in montreal...

the question asked. no to hartnell and giroux but yes to perron...
gainey

again from hockey30

Colombus:
Selon le Columbus Dispatch, l'attaquant des Blue Jackets, Raffi Torres, serait échangé avant la date limite des transactions.
Torres deviendra joueur autonome sans compensation au terme de la saison.
"J'adore Colombus, la ville et ma vie ici" a affirmé Torres.
En 41 matchs, l'attaquant canadien revendique une fiche de 11 buts et 8 passes.

so raffi will be available to teams... i'm not a big fan but i'm sure there might be takers...

according to pierre lebrun:

http://sports.espn.go.com/espn/blog/index?entryID=4812322&name=lebrun_pierre

atlanta is starting to talk to teams about kovalchuck (that's a surprise)

and ray whitney will be made available.

When do the Senators firesale rumours start to surface? Sens should not be worrying about who to go out and overspend to acquire, but what they can get for Volchenkov?

Kovalev I would move after the season (trading him this season looks bad since he just signed, but the harder problem would be finding someone to take him).

Dash wrote:When do the Senators firesale rumours start to surface? Sens should not be worrying about who to go out and overspend to acquire, but what they can get for Volchenkov?

Kovalev I would move after the season (trading him this season looks bad since he just signed, but the harder problem would be finding someone to take him).

Probably not while we are sitting in a playoff spot.

Cause we're really winning the cup with this roster...

Dash wrote:Cause we're really winning the cup with this roster...

So any team not winning the cup this year should go in firesale mode ? You don't overhaul a roster in one year.

Not every team is in dire straits as the Senators. Can't compare the Senators to every team in the league - how long can this team go on without a true franchise defender? How about solving the goaltending for once? I'm frustrated and tired of seeing this team pretend to be a contender. We slip into the playoffs and accomplish nothing, but that seems to be okay with you guys cause they are making money. So, it's all about money then and not icing a good team? Murray continually going out and making awful decisions? We've got a 4th line (when our team is healthy) making almost $6M - that is ridiculous. Spend the money where it is needed and on players that deserve it based on skill and not because they are "good guys".

Dash wrote:Not every team is in dire straits as the Senators. Can't compare the Senators to every team in the league - how long can this team go on without a true franchise defender? How about solving the goaltending for once? I'm frustrated and tired of seeing this team pretend to be a contender. We slip into the playoffs and accomplish nothing, but that seems to be okay with you guys cause they are making money. So, it's all about money then and not icing a good team? Murray continually going out and making awful decisions? We've got a 4th line (when our team is healthy) making almost $6M - that is ridiculous. Spend the money where it is needed and on players that deserve it based on skill and not because they are "good guys".

the leafs did it for years.
i don't think the majority of sens fan would support a team selling all assets. attendance numbers would drop like crazy. look at last night, there were holes all over scotia bank.
with the way murray has been drafting and signing a few UFA to short term contracts till our young D and G are ready(2-3 years) we are gonna be contenders again in less then 5 years, while making the playoffs most years.

Dash wrote:Not every team is in dire straits as the Senators. Can't compare the Senators to every team in the league - how long can this team go on without a true franchise defender? How about solving the goaltending for once? I'm frustrated and tired of seeing this team pretend to be a contender. We slip into the playoffs and accomplish nothing, but that seems to be okay with you guys cause they are making money. So, it's all about money then and not icing a good team? Murray continually going out and making awful decisions? We've got a 4th line (when our team is healthy) making almost $6M - that is ridiculous. Spend the money where it is needed and on players that deserve it based on skill and not because they are "good guys".

That's what we did in 07/08, turned out pretty awesome, didn't it?

Fact is, there are very few teams that are competing right now, who didn't suck for long periods of time and rebuilt with 1st rounders.
We did the playoffs for 11 straight years, and still I think this team will prosper when Cowen and Karlsson will be in their 3-4th years. By that time, we should have at least 2 legitimate 1st liners at the forward position, a good goalie (Lehner or Leclaire), while still competing for a playoff spot every year.
Seriously, I don't have much to complain about, when I know it is pretty hard to make a deal right now, and it's pretty hard to get high draft picks that can really make a difference.

Dash wrote:Not every team is in dire straits as the Senators. Can't compare the Senators to every team in the league - how long can this team go on without a true franchise defender? How about solving the goaltending for once? I'm frustrated and tired of seeing this team pretend to be a contender. We slip into the playoffs and accomplish nothing, but that seems to be okay with you guys cause they are making money. So, it's all about money then and not icing a good team? Murray continually going out and making awful decisions? We've got a 4th line (when our team is healthy) making almost $6M - that is ridiculous. Spend the money where it is needed and on players that deserve it based on skill and not because they are "good guys".

I think you are overstating the problems. How many true franchise D are there in the league, not enough to go around. Murray has attempted to acquire or draft one. I agree with you on the 6M fourth line, Kelly and Neil are both overpaid. Murray has attempted to address the goaltending with the acquisition of Leclaire and drafting of Lehner in the 2nd round. I for one am taking a wait and see attitude with Leclaire. If by this time next year he is not playing up to my expectations, then I will be jumping on your bandwagon.

If I were the GM of this team, I would continue down the current path, with an eye on acquiring young offensive talent when possible through trades and the draft and in the summer of 2011 I would take the 8M of cap space freed up from Kovy and Cheechoo and make my move on a big time UFA/RFA. The RFA crop is ridiculous that summer (Weber, Stamkos, Carter, Doughty to name but a few).

Dash wrote:Not every team is in dire straits as the Senators. Can't compare the Senators to every team in the league - how long can this team go on without a true franchise defender? How about solving the goaltending for once? I'm frustrated and tired of seeing this team pretend to be a contender. We slip into the playoffs and accomplish nothing, but that seems to be okay with you guys cause they are making money. So, it's all about money then and not icing a good team? Murray continually going out and making awful decisions? We've got a 4th line (when our team is healthy) making almost $6M - that is ridiculous. Spend the money where it is needed and on players that deserve it based on skill and not because they are "good guys".

It's not that easy to just acquire a franchise defender. Murray could have gotten Campbell if you would have liked but we would be even more screwed if that had happened. The way I see it, we've just got to be patient and try to develop our own talent. We did it before and we can do it again but it takes more then a season or two. You're calling for a rebuild, which is fine but don't think it's going to happen overnight.

marakh wrote:Fact is, there are very few teams that are competing right now, who didn't suck for long periods of time and rebuilt with 1st rounders.
We did the playoffs for 11 straight years, and still I think this team will prosper when Cowen and Karlsson will be in their 3-4th years. By that time, we should have at least 2 legitimate 1st liners at the forward position, a good goalie (Lehner or Leclaire), while still competing for a playoff spot every year.
Seriously, I don't have much to complain about, when I know it is pretty hard to make a deal right now, and it's pretty hard to get high draft picks that can really make a difference.

Great post.

This is the stuff the Ottawa media needs to be spreading - not constant negativity.

11 straight playoff years, a stanley cup final, the longest serving captain, 2 great chl team, the largest tournament in the world, etc.

We're trying to stay semi-competitve while we build for 4-5 years out.

Hayden wrote:

marakh wrote:Fact is, there are very few teams that are competing right now, who didn't suck for long periods of time and rebuilt with 1st rounders.
We did the playoffs for 11 straight years, and still I think this team will prosper when Cowen and Karlsson will be in their 3-4th years. By that time, we should have at least 2 legitimate 1st liners at the forward position, a good goalie (Lehner or Leclaire), while still competing for a playoff spot every year.
Seriously, I don't have much to complain about, when I know it is pretty hard to make a deal right now, and it's pretty hard to get high draft picks that can really make a difference.

Great post.

This is the stuff the Ottawa media needs to be spreading - not constant negativity.

11 straight playoff years, a stanley cup final, the longest serving captain, 2 great chl team, the largest tournament in the world, etc.

We're trying to stay semi-competitve while we build for 4-5 years out.

that's what i've been saying. 4 to 5 years makingthe playoffs and rebuilding the team thru picks. no surprise guys like kovalev get brought in for a couple of years.

Like it or not we are probably moving some young players to bolster this lineup. Brunette, The Wizard... and I wouldn't be shocked to see us deal Volchenkov and make a play for Phaneuf, despite Sutter's denials. It's not like he doesn't ever lie through his teeth.