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61Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:43 pm

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I would be all over that trade .... I still think Columbus has plans for Filatov though unfortunately

62Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:44 pm

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SDH89 wrote:I would be all over that trade .... I still think Columbus has plans for Filatov though unfortunately

Agreed, SDH89. Plans to trade him to Ottawa! Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 235689 Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 805406

63Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:46 pm

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Not with Hitch as coach, IMO. I cant stand him as a coach and I think his team has actually stopped listening to the guy. He doesnt know how to handle young tallent and even though Filatov might not be ready this very second, he will be in the next year or two.

He's a winger that can cheat a little on the defensive side of things because of the postion he plays... give him a guy like Fisher covering up for him or Michalek, and he could be a fantastic addition. Not to mention the fact he would fit right in with the young core they are trying to build.

64Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:47 pm

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You might wanna recheck Filatov's skills, the kid is insane. No way should he ever be compared to Brian Lee. Brian LEe should have been taken in the last 5 picks of the 1st round, Filatov was arguably the best forward available after Stamkos. Stamkos struggled big time last year also. Wilson is not blowing anyone away either, Hodgson is different he is injured.
Have you seen Colombus' top 6? Who would you take off to get FIlatov in? They're not gonna give him 4th line minutes so they'd rather play him in the AHL, but the kid would rather go back home to get more cash obviously, but probably would like to be closer to his family and friends and try again next year. I don't see anything wrong with that personnally.

Also, I hope you don't expect Seabrook for VOlchenkov...

65Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:49 pm

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marakh wrote:

Also, I hope you don't expect Seabrook for VOlchenkov...

Interesting thought, marakh! Seabrook for Volchenkov, eh? Source?

66Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:50 pm

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67Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 2:50 pm

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marakh wrote:Oh my Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 270956 Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 489887

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68Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:06 pm

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marakh wrote:You might wanna recheck Filatov's skills, the kid is insane. No way should he ever be compared to Brian Lee. Brian LEe should have been taken in the last 5 picks of the 1st round, Filatov was arguably the best forward available after Stamkos. Stamkos struggled big time last year also. Wilson is not blowing anyone away either, Hodgson is different he is injured.
Have you seen Colombus' top 6? Who would you take off to get FIlatov in? They're not gonna give him 4th line minutes so they'd rather play him in the AHL, but the kid would rather go back home to get more cash obviously, but probably would like to be closer to his family and friends and try again next year. I don't see anything wrong with that personnally.

Also, I hope you don't expect Seabrook for VOlchenkov...

Believe me, I know that Filatov has skills- but if he REALLY had the ilk that you guys are painting him to be, he'd be in the NHL right now. Again, I don't think there's anything remarkable about Columbus' top 6. Obviously you've got Nash, Vermette and Huselius who have been playing well (mostly a product of Nash), everybody else has been fairly average in terms of top 6. My argument is simply that if he was THAT good, he'd be playing. When you consider Foligno, who has been playing mostly on the 3rd line, and at some times the 2nd- has the same amount of goals as everyone in Columbus' top 6 with the exception of Nash and Huselius. Not to mention he plays with a tough and in your face style similar to Fisher's- I'm not giving him up for a guy who ripped up in junior- lots of people do that. I flip the question back to you- who on our top 6 would you drop for him?

If I'm columbus, i'm putting him in the AHL to rip it up and get used to the NA game- not sending him to the competing KHL just because he's closer to his family and friends. He's 19, he needs to grow up. I dont know, it seems like there are far too many "If"s with him- "If he gains weight" and "If he can develop a two way game" and "If his skills can transfer over here" and "If he's put with the right people".

I know it seems like i'm bashing him, and I'm not- the kid has definitely shown that he has talent and definitely has potential... I'm just not ready to give up contributing regulars on our club for him. I think it's absurd to argue for things when they aren't broken.

As for Volchenkov, you're braindead if you don't think that everybody in the league is calling about this guy come the trade deadline. Especially teams that are competing and are tight against the cap. This is the type of guy you want going into the playoffs- a warrior, a guy who will block tons of shots, make big hits, play sound defensively, and play through any kind of injury imaginable... And off the books next year, with the potential to resign him... he has ALL KINDS of value.

69Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:08 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:Also Russell seems to have trouble staying in the lineup there. That might be an angle.

Russell for Lee sounds exactly right. Problem is...we no longer really need Russell, right?

70Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:09 pm

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RobbyJ wrote:Russell is useless to the Sens now. Winchester is a nice player, but come on, in order to get Filatov, you give him up.

I would think that Lee/Campoli and Foligno for Filatov and a mid-round pick would work for both sides.

That's more like it in all honesty. Foligno + 1st Round Pick + for Filatov. No less. The kid might look like a pre-teen girl, but he'll fill out (muscle that is Sarcasm ) eventually and be diddling wicked.

71Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:10 pm

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Jordo wrote:
marakh wrote:You might wanna recheck Filatov's skills, the kid is insane. No way should he ever be compared to Brian Lee. Brian LEe should have been taken in the last 5 picks of the 1st round, Filatov was arguably the best forward available after Stamkos. Stamkos struggled big time last year also. Wilson is not blowing anyone away either, Hodgson is different he is injured.
Have you seen Colombus' top 6? Who would you take off to get FIlatov in? They're not gonna give him 4th line minutes so they'd rather play him in the AHL, but the kid would rather go back home to get more cash obviously, but probably would like to be closer to his family and friends and try again next year. I don't see anything wrong with that personnally.

Also, I hope you don't expect Seabrook for VOlchenkov...

Believe me, I know that Filatov has skills- but if he REALLY had the ilk that you guys are painting him to be, he'd be in the NHL right now. Again, I don't think there's anything remarkable about Columbus' top 6. Obviously you've got Nash, Vermette and Huselius who have been playing well (mostly a product of Nash), everybody else has been fairly average in terms of top 6. My argument is simply that if he was THAT good, he'd be playing. When you consider Foligno, who has been playing mostly on the 3rd line, and at some times the 2nd- has the same amount of goals as everyone in Columbus' top 6 with the exception of Nash and Huselius. Not to mention he plays with a tough and in your face style similar to Fisher's- I'm not giving him up for a guy who ripped up in junior- lots of people do that. I flip the question back to you- who on our top 6 would you drop for him?

If I'm columbus, i'm putting him in the AHL to rip it up and get used to the NA game- not sending him to the competing KHL just because he's closer to his family and friends. He's 19, he needs to grow up. I dont know, it seems like there are far too many "If"s with him- "If he gains weight" and "If he can develop a two way game" and "If his skills can transfer over here" and "If he's put with the right people".

I know it seems like i'm bashing him, and I'm not- the kid has definitely shown that he has talent and definitely has potential... I'm just not ready to give up contributing regulars on our club for him. I think it's absurd to argue for things when they aren't broken.

As for Volchenkov, you're braindead if you don't think that everybody in the league is calling about this guy come the trade deadline. Especially teams that are competing and are tight against the cap. This is the type of guy you want going into the playoffs- a warrior, a guy who will block tons of shots, make big hits, play sound defensively, and play through any kind of injury imaginable... And off the books next year, with the potential to resign him... he has ALL KINDS of value.

I agree, but they are not going to add a guy and subtract somewhere else. A Train would be dealt for picks and propects, not Seabrook, lets be honest.

72Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:11 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Also Russell seems to have trouble staying in the lineup there. That might be an angle.

Russell for Lee sounds exactly right. Problem is...we no longer really need Russell, right?

Or Murray has decided that the Campoli experiment has failed? Then you're looking at Campoli, Lee and whatever for Filatov and Russell. Maybe.

Either way, this deal will be done by noon tomorrow.

73Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:11 pm

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Just cuz you have mad skills doesn't make you a great, rounded team player... look at Kovalev. He's got ridiculous skills with the puck when he's on his own making a neat video for Youtube... but it hasn't exactly translated to a consistently dominating game on the ice...

74Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:13 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Also Russell seems to have trouble staying in the lineup there. That might be an angle.

Russell for Lee sounds exactly right. Problem is...we no longer really need Russell, right?

Or Murray has decided that the Campoli experiment has failed? Then you're looking at Campoli, Lee and whatever for Filatov and Russell. Maybe.

Either way, this deal will be done by noon tomorrow.

Which deal? Ahhhhh! Ahhhhh!


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75Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:14 pm

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shabbs wrote:Just cuz you have mad skills doesn't make you a great, rounded team player... look at Kovalev. He's got ridiculous skills with the puck when he's on his own making a neat video for Youtube... but it hasn't exactly translated to a consistently dominating game on the ice...

He can also fly an airplane.

76Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:14 pm

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RobbyJ wrote:
Foligno has upside, but he looks quite slow, don't know what his final potential is but it might be 3rd liner.

If by quite slow you mean the 2nd fastest player on the Sens?

77Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:17 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Just cuz you have mad skills doesn't make you a great, rounded team player... look at Kovalev. He's got ridiculous skills with the puck when he's on his own making a neat video for Youtube... but it hasn't exactly translated to a consistently dominating game on the ice...

He can also fly an airplane.

Alright then. Sign him up for a two year deal at 5M per. Sarcasm


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78Filatov to Ottawa? - Page 5 Empty Re: Filatov to Ottawa? Mon Nov 30, 2009 3:17 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Just cuz you have mad skills doesn't make you a great, rounded team player... look at Kovalev. He's got ridiculous skills with the puck when he's on his own making a neat video for Youtube... but it hasn't exactly translated to a consistently dominating game on the ice...

He can also fly an airplane.
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