Smyth, not Heatley, traded to Kings; and other stuff

SpezDispenser wrote:

Urkie wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Probably nowhere until early August. If he doesn't get moved, you wait for the first team to panic and actually offer something tangible.

I think it's obvious where this is going Spez. The Oilers didn't pick up a top 6 forward on July 1st and now they almost have to go through with this Heatley deal, especially since the names of the players they were going to trade were released to the public. On top of that, they have been looking for a star to come to Edmonton since the Pronger fiasco and they are desperate to land one. I just get the sense that if we are going to trade Heatley to anyone then it's going to be Edmonton.

It wouldn't be exactly the same as the original deal but it would be similar.

Oh, that's fine. I'm all for this getting over with. I want something more fun than Smid though please. I can live with Fat Penner, but Smid I just can't get excited about.

SpezDispenser wrote:Oh, that's fine. I'm all for this getting over with. I want something more fun than Smid though please. I can live with Fat Penner, but Smid I just can't get excited about.

MurderOnIce wrote:
Gilbert?

davetherave wrote:
Poor Dustin, he's being treated like he's Kirstie Alley. Spez, you're gonna give the guy a complex.

And Smid? 6'3", 225, 23 years old...

From Faceoff.com:

ASSETS: Displays plenty of intelligence and poise--with and without the puck. Has the size scouts like in an NHL defender. Displays all-around potential.

CAREER POTENTIAL: Top six defenseman.

SpezDispenser wrote:

MurderOnIce wrote:
Gilbert?

That was my thought from day 1. I'll take the salary and get a good puck mover, you take the salary of Smith because you're getting the best player in the deal by a country mile.

Dig in your heels Murray! Get another good player and make the package more enticing.

SpezDispenser wrote:Oh, that's fine. I'm all for this getting over with. I want something more fun than Smid though please. I can live with Fat Penner, but Smid I just can't get excited about.

PKC wrote:
I've heard a lot of talk that Ottawa is trying to move Smith, Picard and Schubert.

Which would leave Phillips, Volchenkov, Lee, Kuba, Campoli and an open roster spot. Potentially trying to make room for a first round pick to play this season?

I say we dump the lot of them on Edmonton in a trade. Give me Penner, Cogliano, Smid and Schremp and have Heatley, Smith, Picard and Schubert.

Good old fashioned, run of the mill, 8 player trade.

Urkie wrote:
Smid isn't that bad. He's one of those defensemen that are just all around solid but don't do anything that special. According to Oilers fans he did really up his physical game and he started skating the puck out of his own zone more regularly during the last half of last season.

With that said, I would like to have Gilbert instead but I don't think he would fit into our long term plans very well. He may force someone like Volchenkov out the door.

SpezDispenser wrote:

PKC wrote:
I've heard a lot of talk that Ottawa is trying to move Smith, Picard and Schubert.

Which would leave Phillips, Volchenkov, Lee, Kuba, Campoli and an open roster spot. Potentially trying to make room for a first round pick to play this season?

I say we dump the lot of them on Edmonton in a trade. Give me Penner, Cogliano, Smid and Schremp and have Heatley, Smith, Picard and Schubert.

Good old fashioned, run of the mill, 8 player trade.

Picard would be the last guy out of that I would trade personally, but Smith and Schubert are a cap saving of 3.2 million, so, yeah, let's do it!

Either shove them on Edmonton (take out Smid and Shremp, add in Gilbert) or as Neely's saying, there will be teams who need an entire pairing filled.

PKC wrote:Could always trade them to teams that need serviceable players that can help them reach the cap floor (yeah you Long Island).

SpezDispenser wrote:

PKC wrote:Could always trade them to teams that need serviceable players that can help them reach the cap floor (yeah you Long Island).

Yeah, how's that gonna work. I bet Sather could unload Drury on them - along with another more valuable piece of course, to shed his money and the Isles could use Drury to teach their young guns a thing or two.

PKC wrote:
I'm talking manageable salary dumps. Not ones that handcuff your team for 5 years. There is NO reason whatsoever for the Isles to acquire any big money talent. There just isn't. It doesn't fit in with their plans, it doesn't fit in with their youth movement and it just flat out doesn't make sense for them.

SpezDispenser wrote:

PKC wrote:
I'm talking manageable salary dumps. Not ones that handcuff your team for 5 years. There is NO reason whatsoever for the Isles to acquire any big money talent. There just isn't. It doesn't fit in with their plans, it doesn't fit in with their youth movement and it just flat out doesn't make sense for them.

It's 3 years for Drury and they have to make the cap floor somehow.

I don't see why they need Mark Streit anymore.

PKC wrote:
They are about 5 million away from the cap floor and they need four players to fill out their roster. I don't see why they would trade like the only Diddle UFA to sign there in the last decade for one of the most ridiculously overpaid players in the league.

SpezDispenser wrote:

PKC wrote:
They are about 5 million away from the cap floor and they need four players to fill out their roster. I don't see why they would trade like the only Diddle UFA to sign there in the last decade for one of the most ridiculously overpaid players in the league.

Oh, in that case, they won't be taking any dumps, they'll just sign 4 tier 9 UFAs and fill their roster.

It was me. I want Mark Streit here (badly).

asq2 wrote:Would you sign Sergei Zubov if the money worked?

He's near the end of his career, but IMO he'd be a mighty fine mentor for Karlsson?