EJ Hradek and NHL Live Reporting Dany Heatley has requested a trade

SensGirl11 wrote:Yummy! I like either of those options. Especially the first 2 guys. Bring it on man!!

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Yummy! I like either of those options. Especially the first 2 guys. Bring it on man!!

I'm surprised more people are talking about this. It's a great proposal. The money's the same, SJ gets a killer sniper for Thornton.

If Marleau cost less, I would suggest him. He's got the entire package, he just can't be a captain. And we have our captain.

But Clowe and Michalek? Instantly the Sens are bigger, tougher, meaner, angrier, hungrier. Everything we want in one transaction.

I think this possibility is being talked about with Murray and co. It's too good not to at least give face time to.

Neely4Life wrote:I think a lot of you guys are looking or things that are not there.

Use some logic here guys, who is looking for a star player? LA and Edmonton. What teams have the cap space? What are the Sens looking for? The Sens are not going to be looking at other question marks coming back. There was a clear message sent yesterday and when they signed Clouston. "It's about what's best for the team now"

That being the case, they are probably going to get players they can still mold into their image. Players that can help 3, 4, 5 years down the road, not a guy like Thornton.

Also, there are other teams that have given up a lot in the past like Pitts and Calgary who cannot afford to be giving away their picks, prospects, and players. Some teams are stuck.

It's nice to dream, but the most logical places to look are teams that are looking to get over a hump and have the goods to get a deal done. Everything leads back to LA and Edmonton.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Yummy! I like either of those options. Especially the first 2 guys. Bring it on man!!

I'm surprised more people are talking about this. It's a great proposal. The money's the same, SJ gets a killer sniper for Thornton.

If Marleau cost less, I would suggest him. He's got the entire package, he just can't be a captain. And we have our captain.

But Clowe and Michalek? Instantly the Sens are bigger, tougher, meaner, angrier, hungrier. Everything we want in one transaction.

I think this possibility is being talked about with Murray and co. It's too good not to at least give face time to.

MurderOnIce wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I think a lot of you guys are looking or things that are not there.

Use some logic here guys, who is looking for a star player? LA and Edmonton. What teams have the cap space? What are the Sens looking for? The Sens are not going to be looking at other question marks coming back. There was a clear message sent yesterday and when they signed Clouston. "It's about what's best for the team now"

That being the case, they are probably going to get players they can still mold into their image. Players that can help 3, 4, 5 years down the road, not a guy like Thornton.

Also, there are other teams that have given up a lot in the past like Pitts and Calgary who cannot afford to be giving away their picks, prospects, and players. Some teams are stuck.

It's nice to dream, but the most logical places to look are teams that are looking to get over a hump and have the goods to get a deal done. Everything leads back to LA and Edmonton.

I disagree. There are going to be 29 teams who lose this year. About 25 who are unhappy with their roster from minor tweaks to major shakeups. If the same money goes out as in, then that expands the field. San Jose is unhappy with how close they have been coming, Calgary same, Vancouver is ready to move away from the Sedins I think.... There are a myriad of teams and scenarios. To limit to Edmonton and LA is wrong IMO. This is a bidding war that will excite about 10 GMs with genuine interest, again this is all speculation but I believe the number is certainly bigger than 2.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

SensGirl11 wrote:Yummy! I like either of those options. Especially the first 2 guys. Bring it on man!!

I'm surprised more people are talking about this. It's a great proposal. The money's the same, SJ gets a killer sniper for Thornton.

If Marleau cost less, I would suggest him. He's got the entire package, he just can't be a captain. And we have our captain.

But Clowe and Michalek? Instantly the Sens are bigger, tougher, meaner, angrier, hungrier. Everything we want in one transaction.

I think this possibility is being talked about with Murray and co. It's too good not to at least give face time to.

The Name Dropper and Dreger both mentioned SJ on their short lists.

Neely4Life wrote:I dont know if Murray is really going to want to take on guys that have underachieved in SJ when he can actually start building his team the way he see's fit.

I would be disapointed if that happend honestly.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:I dont know if Murray is really going to want to take on guys that have underachieved in SJ when he can actually start building his team the way he see's fit.

I would be disapointed if that happend honestly.

Really? You don't want Clowe or Michalek. Big diddling forechecks with the penchant to score 25 goals? That figure jumps to 30+ when they're playing with Alfie and Spezza.

I don't think Clowe and Michalek were the reason SJ failed - I think there were too few guys like these.

SpezDispenser wrote:Oh man, I hope it's not for just Marleau. I hope it's for Ehrhoff and Michalek/Clowe. I better e-mail the Sens now to make sure. I'll take Marleau and Ehrhoff for Arshole and Jason Smith/Chris Kelly.



I better go and e-mail the Sens...

Neely4Life wrote:I love Clowe, but not in this situation. The Sens should be setting them selves up for the future because if Spezza takes off here and we have our D, goaltending set for 10 plus years, we can work with the forwards we have and draft some high end tallent.

The right move here is BUILDING The Sens, not putting pieces together and hope it works out. Heatley asking for a trade should kill the "win now" mentality in Ottawa.

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I don't like it any more than you do. But I'm assuming it is Marleau. Bottom line, because of the lack of a 1st rounder, I don't see SJ meeting our needs.

SpezDispenser wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:
I don't like it any more than you do. But I'm assuming it is Marleau. Bottom line, because of the lack of a 1st rounder, I don't see SJ meeting our needs.

Really? So you want that LA 5th overall? Fair enough. It's gonna be a guy like Kane or B.Schenn (nice, I love this kid) or MPS. That's great. I still like the SJ proposals with the big kids coming over, but I understand the sentiment.

Remember that Lombardi will want to make a splash, but he won't be offering Teubert, the 5th overall + a forward. He'll offer JJ and I hate that diddler. His attitude is no better than Heatley's. And I doubt he'll waiver no matter what. He'll walk away instead of trading Teubert instead of JJ.

Neely4Life wrote:I do, but that wont just come with brining in 2 guys. There has to be a fundimental change with the guys in the locker room and you're prospects brought up in that system.

Clouston already has a vision and he should be able to do it with fresh players with good attitudes that are kind of raw.

I'm convinced the way to go is building the team for 4, 5 years down the road, not next year or the year after that. There is a real opportunity in Ottawa that Heatley made possible by being a douche bag.