EJ Hradek and NHL Live Reporting Dany Heatley has requested a trade

Neely4Life wrote:I still love what LA can offer.

SpezDispenser wrote:Hedjuk, Wolski and the 3rd overall. They've waited for this day for 10 lifetimes - a new sniper to make Statsny the big center on campus.

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Neely4Life wrote:Should be, but I mean, if there is a list of 10 teams he wont go to, thats fine. Prob teams like Florida, Atlanta, Pheonix, NYI, Tampa, Carolina, Montreal, Nashville, Toronto, and Buffalo... something like that, everyone else is wide open.

If you ask for a trade that NTC should be void right away.

Yeah that list looks about right, but I wouldn't rule out Carolina and Phoenix too quickly.

Carolina has top line center for him to play with and have just had some decent success.

Phoenix has the Great One and a reasonable crop of talented young players.

Both are also out of the media storm he'd find in some other cities. Imo thats a huge concern for a guy like Heatley. Its one of the reasons why LA makes so much sense.

Either way, when people are coming up with their potential trade ideas, it would be nice if they would consider why he might want to go to that city and why he might not... I mean, Atlanta?? Really?

SpezDispenser wrote:

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Dash wrote:It was mentioned his ice time went down considerably, and was inconsistent - one day he was over 22 mins, the next 12. One day he's a 1st line player, the next 2nd. Then he's a 1st pairing PP, then he's 2nd. He wasn't happy, and he's made his choice.

Those scenarios were my dream, likely not going to happen, I realize that. But if people are throwing out Weber and Phaneuf I am going to throw out Nash.

It doesn't make any sense, though...

Nash makes more sense that any of us imagine. What if Columbus can't re-sign him? At least this way they get a comparable player locked for 5 more years. If he waives to go to Columbus, I would see this as a distinct possibility.

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cash wrote:Schenn is more of a Dustin Brown isn't he??

He's pretty physical, but he's less of a goal-scorer than Brown and more of a playmaker.

One comparison I've seen tossed around is a really poor man's Messier. Of course, when we do these comparisons, it's more talking about style of play than calibre. Also, you're never going to be fully precise.

cash wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:Should be, but I mean, if there is a list of 10 teams he wont go to, thats fine. Prob teams like Florida, Atlanta, Pheonix, NYI, Tampa, Carolina, Montreal, Nashville, Toronto, and Buffalo... something like that, everyone else is wide open.

If you ask for a trade that NTC should be void right away.

Yeah that list looks about right, but I wouldn't rule out Carolina and Phoenix too quickly.

Carolina has top line center for him to play with and have just had some decent success.

Phoenix has the Great One and a reasonable crop of talented young players.

Both are also out of the media storm he'd find in some other cities. Imo thats a huge concern for a guy like Heatley. Its one of the reasons why LA makes so much sense.

Either way, when people are coming up with their potential trade ideas, it would be nice if they would consider why he might want to go to that city and why he might not... I mean, Atlanta?? Really?

hemlock wrote:The more I think about this the less enviable I think Murray's position is. Not many teams have the budget nor the cap space to take on a massive contract without giving up a big contract in return. The means taking some deadweight back. Also couple that with Heatley's apparent list of teams he won't accept a deal to and the list of suitors potentially gets very small. If I am Murray, I tell Heatley's agent to take that list, turn it sideways and pound it up his Donkey. No way do I allow a player to not only dishonour a contract, but to punch his own ticket? No way.

I'm wondering if Colorado has any interest. I'd be opening with their first and Wolski. He has a year left, then becomes RFA.

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SpezDispenser wrote:

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Dash wrote:It was mentioned his ice time went down considerably, and was inconsistent - one day he was over 22 mins, the next 12. One day he's a 1st line player, the next 2nd. Then he's a 1st pairing PP, then he's 2nd. He wasn't happy, and he's made his choice.

Those scenarios were my dream, likely not going to happen, I realize that. But if people are throwing out Weber and Phaneuf I am going to throw out Nash.

It doesn't make any sense, though...

Nash makes more sense that any of us imagine. What if Columbus can't re-sign him? At least this way they get a comparable player locked for 5 more years. If he waives to go to Columbus, I would see this as a distinct possibility.

No. It doesn't.

Heatley only waives to go to Columbus if he's going there to play with Nash.

Neely4Life wrote:
It was the coach there, Hartley. Heatley cant play under a coach that has any kind of an edge to him. Heatley needs to be babied.

LA makes so much sense it would almost be stupid if it didnt happen. They have everything Ottawa needs and they are expendable in LA.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:
It was the coach there, Hartley. Heatley cant play under a coach that has any kind of an edge to him. Heatley needs to be babied.

LA makes so much sense it would almost be stupid if it didnt happen. They have everything Ottawa needs and they are expendable in LA.

Murray is a great coach - a big part of LA's future. He's also B.Murray's brother. He knows what a lazy character he's getting and he might want no part of it.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:
It was the coach there, Hartley. Heatley cant play under a coach that has any kind of an edge to him. Heatley needs to be babied.

LA makes so much sense it would almost be stupid if it didnt happen. They have everything Ottawa needs and they are expendable in LA.

Murray is a great coach - a big part of LA's future. He's also B.Murray's brother. He knows what a lazy character he's getting and he might want no part of it.

Urkie wrote:I tend to agree with people that say we won't get as much because other teams know we are trading him either way. You can thank the person who leaked this story for that.

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cash wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

cash wrote:

Dash wrote:It was mentioned his ice time went down considerably, and was inconsistent - one day he was over 22 mins, the next 12. One day he's a 1st line player, the next 2nd. Then he's a 1st pairing PP, then he's 2nd. He wasn't happy, and he's made his choice.

Those scenarios were my dream, likely not going to happen, I realize that. But if people are throwing out Weber and Phaneuf I am going to throw out Nash.

It doesn't make any sense, though...

Nash makes more sense that any of us imagine. What if Columbus can't re-sign him? At least this way they get a comparable player locked for 5 more years. If he waives to go to Columbus, I would see this as a distinct possibility.

No. It doesn't.

Heatley only waives to go to Columbus if he's going there to play with Nash.

heatley wont know who he is traded for until the deal is done so BM could tell him he will be playing in columbus with nash when in actuality nash is coming this way

Neely4Life wrote:Ball is in Murray's court. Ottawa owns Heatley, not the other way around. Teams want Heatley, Ottawa has him.

I would have no problem making Heatley play infront of a bitter, harsh Ottawa crowd until he decides to go where Murray wants him to as well.

Ottawa has the best player here.