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SeawaySensFan wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

shabbs wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:Maybe Monday morning mystery montage?

  

As usual you've summed it up perfectly brah.

Brah.

Whah?

Yah!

Aah!!!

Ohhhh!

Pretty soon the "Aaahs" and "Ohhhs" will turn to "Oooohs!" and "Yesss!" and this thread will have to be locked down.

Or we could completely derail it and express our sympathies to the Williams' family. RIP Robin Williams.

Tribute already started in the "What am I watching ..." thread.

Rumours from my contacts are coming in that BRF won't re-sign in Ottawa. Not sure how legit that is, but we'll see. We'll know when we know.

lol your contacts

Ev wrote:lol your contacts

Heh.

#Insider

Didn't know how to word it...

well the guy with legit contacts on HF said they agreed to an extension last month. Just working out details

Ev wrote:well the guy with legit contacts on HF said they agreed to an extension last month. Just working out details

I hope he's right.

shabbs wrote:Rumours from my contacts are coming in that BRF won't re-sign in Ottawa. Not sure how legit that is, but we'll see. We'll know when we know.

This is what I've been reporting for months here as well. Hope I'm wrong but that rarely (never) happens.

I'll get ripped but I honestly wouldn't be too sad if he didn't re-sign. Good player but not a franchise player who isn't extremely hard to replace. I want him signed, but if we traded him at the deadline for something nice it wouldn't be the end of the world.

I really think he's going to sign though. There is currently no reason to suggest he won't.

I'll be pretty pissed if he isn't resigned because there is no reason not to resign him.

NEELY wrote:I'll be pretty pissed if he isn't resigned because there is no reason not to resign him.

The reason would be his own reason, not the team's. Why get pissed at that?

If his demands were outrageous and the team declined to pay him that then I'd be on their side as well. Can't pay a 60 point guy anything he wants.

But regardless if he doesn't sign it won't be because the team didn't want to sign him and didn't give him good terms.

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:I'll be pretty pissed if he isn't resigned because there is no reason not to resign him.

The reason would be his own reason, not the team's. Why get pissed at that?

If his demands were outrageous and the team declined to pay him that then I'd be on their side as well. Can't pay a 60 point guy anything he wants.

But regardless if he doesn't sign it won't be because the team didn't want to sign him and didn't give him good terms.

I have been very vocal in saying I don't believe the budget and players not wanting to be in Ottawa is as big of an issue as a lot of people are making it out to be but this would be a move that hurts the Sens and the organization. On ice play isn't the only thing that matters in Ottawa right now, off ice optics are important and you are over looking that in a big way right now.

Ryan is a make or break signing for this franchise IMO.

NEELY wrote:

Ev wrote:

NEELY wrote:I'll be pretty pissed if he isn't resigned because there is no reason not to resign him.

The reason would be his own reason, not the team's. Why get pissed at that?

If his demands were outrageous and the team declined to pay him that then I'd be on their side as well. Can't pay a 60 point guy anything he wants.

But regardless if he doesn't sign it won't be because the team didn't want to sign him and didn't give him good terms.

I have been very vocal in saying I don't believe the budget and players not wanting to be in Ottawa is as big of an issue as a lot of people are making it out to be but this would be a move that hurts the Sens and the organization.  On ice play isn't the only thing that matters in Ottawa right now, off ice optics are important and you are over looking that in a big way right now.

Ryan is a make or break signing for this franchise IMO.

I disagree but whatever. If they offered him $8 million over 8 years but he went somewhere else then that's his own problem, not Ottawa's budget problem.

Karlsson is a make or break. I don't think Ryan is. Team wouldn't miss a beat IMO, and Stone might just end up producing like him in a couple of years.

I think the optics would look bad but that's because the optics of Ryan are pretty blurred. He is thought of as some sort of superstar when in reality he is a bubble top 50 nhl player

Obviously. Why the heck do you think I had/have my knickers twisted over this? This is as much about the off ice stability of the franchise as it is about Ryan staying. I bet they've sold 46 season tickets this summer - and some would say who can blame people for not buying them? The team that we're trotting out there is pretty good IMO - good enough to squeak into the playoffs if a lot of things go right - and absolutely good enough to evolved into one of the better teams in the East in years to come, but if every time a UFA that matters comes up, we sit here holding our weiners it looks friggin' terrible.

Even if you have to overpay him and MacArthur, you do what you have to do to show people that yes, we've had some issues in the past with players leaving, but these players are players that we have earmarked as 'core' players and we're not letting them go.

The fact that this has taken so long is really sad. Really gives the people with the budget Dung some ammunition and doesn't project a sense of stability or long term commitment to the franchise.

Ev wrote:
Karlsson is a make or break. I don't think Ryan is. Team wouldn't miss a beat IMO, and Stone might just end up producing like him in a couple of years.

Right and what are the odds of that? When is the last time the Sens produced a forward that puts up points/goals like Ryan?

It's probably not the end of the world but there's no good reason why they can't come to an agreement with Ryan.

None.

SpezDispenser wrote:Obviously.  Why the heck do you think I had/have my knickers twisted over this?  This is as much about the off ice stability of the franchise as it is about Ryan staying.  I bet they've sold 46 season tickets this summer - and some would say who can blame people for not buying them?  The team that we're trotting out there is pretty good IMO - good enough to squeak into the playoffs if a lot of things go right - and absolutely good enough to evolved into one of the better teams in the East in years to come, but if every time a UFA that matters comes up, we sit here holding our weiners it looks friggin' terrible.  

Even if you have to overpay him and MacArthur, you do what you have to do to show people that yes, we've had some issues in the past with players leaving, but these players are players that we have earmarked as 'core' players and we're not letting them go.

The fact that this has taken so long is really sad.  Really gives the people with the budget Dung some ammunition and doesn't project a sense of stability or long term commitment to the franchise.

That's hilarious. You sound like Sandy. Nobody thought they would be signed soon. Did you listen to Dorion a week or two ago?

Why is MacArthur a core player or a must sign? I feel like this is deja vu and we've already talked about this but I don't get the fascination over him. He isn't a must-keep, neither is Methot. Ryan I would say is for this current team, but again if he feels like playing somewhere else there's nothing they can do.