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Ev wrote:to me it shows that they won't be a budget team soon.

Next year's (15-16) cap payroll is at

$45,356,667

Add $6-7 for Ryan

Add $4-5 for Methot

Add $3-3.5 for Zibanejad

Add $2-2.5 for Chiasson

Add $2-2.5 for Stone

Add $800K for Lazar

That's a payroll of at least 60 million. Out of ~70.

rooneypoo wrote:

Ev wrote:to me it shows that they won't be a budget team soon.

Next year's (15-16) cap payroll is at

$45,356,667

Add $6-7 for Ryan

Add $4-5 for Methot

Add $3-3.5 for Zibanejad

Add $2-2.5 for Chiasson

Add $2-2.5 for Stone

Add $800K for Lazar

That's a payroll of at least 60 million. Out of ~70.

Is it possible that *gasp* the whole BUDGET!!! thing has been blown out of proportion? But all-knowing Yost tells me otherwise!

Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Ev wrote:to me it shows that they won't be a budget team soon.

Next year's (15-16) cap payroll is at

$45,356,667

Add $6-7 for Ryan

Add $4-5 for Methot

Add $3-3.5 for Zibanejad

Add $2-2.5 for Chiasson

Add $2-2.5 for Stone

Add $800K for Lazar

That's a payroll of at least 60 million. Out of ~70.

Is it possible that *gasp* the whole BUDGET!!! thing has been blown out of proportion? But all-knowing Yost tells me otherwise!

It has been, because if they went out and spent on stupid free agents, then where is the money for re-signing your key players?

Reward your key players once they earn it on their cheap deals. Just like they did with Mac.

They are bang on when they say they will spend when it is right. But that doesn't mean you go spend on somebody just for the sake of spending.

IMO next year will be the perfect time to trade some depth and pounce on another Ryan type.

rooneypoo wrote:

Ev wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Ev wrote:to me it shows that they won't be a budget team soon.

Next year's (15-16) cap payroll is at

$45,356,667

Add $6-7 for Ryan

Add $4-5 for Methot

Add $3-3.5 for Zibanejad

Add $2-2.5 for Chiasson

Add $2-2.5 for Stone

Add $800K for Lazar

That's a payroll of at least 60 million. Out of ~70.

Is it possible that *gasp* the whole BUDGET!!! thing has been blown out of proportion? But all-knowing Yost tells me otherwise!

It has been, because if they went out and spent on stupid free agents, then where is the money for re-signing your key players?

Reward your key players once they earn it on their cheap deals. Just like they did with Mac.

They are bang on when they say they will spend when it is right. But that doesn't mean you go spend on somebody just for the sake of spending.

IMO next year will be the perfect time to trade some depth and pounce on another Ryan type.

This is the exact set of points/arguments I hammered Yost on for like 5 hours straight on Twitter, right around UFA day. Just waiting for the Ryan re-signing to rub it in his stupid know-it-all face.

Flo The Action wrote:Im not sure how i feel about this. I think I was into keeping Anderson for another 2 years but this is 4 more years from now. You all talk about tradable assets when really is pavelec tradable? If andy takes a dive in nets we'll be stuck with him. But all n all I'm happy with having a solid back up and it's not like we're right against the cap.
I'm hoping they didn't give him a NTC.

I'll also bet Anderson doesn't finish this next contract here.

shabbs wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:I see nothing wrong with this deal. That fact that Yost thinks it dumb only confirms further for me that it's totally fine.

Truth.

Flo The Action wrote:Im not sure how i feel about this. I think I was into keeping Anderson for another 2 years but this is 4 more years from now. You all talk about tradable assets when really is pavelec tradable? If andy takes a dive in nets we'll be stuck with him. But all n all I'm happy with having a solid back up and it's not like we're right against the cap.
I'm hoping they didn't give him a NTC.

I'll also bet Anderson doesn't finish this next contract here.

wprager wrote:

shabbs wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:I see nothing wrong with this deal. That fact that Yost thinks it dumb only confirms further for me that it's totally fine.

Truth.

Oh, does he? Then that settles it.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

wprager wrote:

shabbs wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:I see nothing wrong with this deal. That fact that Yost thinks it dumb only confirms further for me that it's totally fine.

Truth.

Oh, does he?  Then that settles it.

The deal is fine and the fact that it is front-loaded helps trade Anderson if Lehner begins to take over. Win-win for everyone involed.

rooneypoo wrote:I don't mind this at all, for a bunch of reasons.

First, Lehner has not done anything to demonstrate that he's ready to take the reins. I know he's the golden boy of the org, and that he's expected to take over the next sooner or later, but he hasn't really forced our hand into putting him in that spot. If and when he does, we'll be left with a very good goalie in Anderson as our backup or as a tradable asset. Win/win, if you ask me.

Second, we have a great tandem locked up for the next three years for about the same price most teams pay for a starter ($6.5 mil). Good value, and good insurance.

Third, it undercuts the narrative about budgets and no one wanting to play here.

I see nothing wrong with this deal. That fact that Yost thinks it dumb only confirms further for me that it's totally fine.

Ev wrote:to me it shows that they won't be a budget team soon.

Next year's (15-16) cap payroll is at

$45,356,667

Add $6-7 for Ryan

Add $4-5 for Methot

Add $3-3.5 for Zibanejad

Add $2-2.5 for Chiasson

Add $2-2.5 for Stone

Add $800K for Lazar

That's a payroll of at least 60 million. Out of ~70.

Oglethorpe wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:I don't mind this at all, for a bunch of reasons.

First, Lehner has not done anything to demonstrate that he's ready to take the reins. I know he's the golden boy of the org, and that he's expected to take over the next sooner or later, but he hasn't really forced our hand into putting him in that spot. If and when he does, we'll be left with a very good goalie in Anderson as our backup or as a tradable asset. Win/win, if you ask me.

Second, we have a great tandem locked up for the next three years for about the same price most teams pay for a starter ($6.5 mil). Good value, and good insurance.

Third, it undercuts the narrative about budgets and no one wanting to play here.

I see nothing wrong with this deal. That fact that Yost thinks it dumb only confirms further for me that it's totally fine.

PMac never allowed Lehner the opportunity to take the reins, when Anderson was hurt Lehner was on a roll and didn't get a chance to continue.  

rooneypoo wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

wprager wrote:

shabbs wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:I see nothing wrong with this deal. That fact that Yost thinks it dumb only confirms further for me that it's totally fine.

Truth.

Oh, does he?  Then that settles it.

The deal is fine and the fact that it is front-loaded helps trade Anderson if Lehner begins to take over. Win-win for everyone involed.

But the BUDGET! Anderson! BUDGET! MacArthur! BUDGET!!! And Borowieki! Aaaaaaa!

*Yost's stupid head implodes*

Oglethorpe wrote:

Ev wrote:to me it shows that they won't be a budget team soon.

Next year's (15-16) cap payroll is at

$45,356,667

Add $6-7 for Ryan

Add $4-5 for Methot

Add $3-3.5 for Zibanejad

Add $2-2.5 for Chiasson

Add $2-2.5 for Stone

Add $800K for Lazar

That's a payroll of at least 60 million. Out of ~70.

Likely a 55-56M floor and a cap of 74-75M for 2015-16 as per James Mirtle and some others.