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GAME DAY:Ottawa Senators @ Carolina Hurricanes - 7:00pm ET - Tue. Mar. 22, 2011

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rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:At this point, I don't see how we can not re-sign Shannon for next year. He brings too much for too cheap. No brainer, if you ask me.

The only problem is Shannon and Clouston don't mix. He just has Shannon out there too much for my liking.

This is more irony, right? Because Shannon is playing literally every position, and in all situations, right now: top-6 minutes, C and wing and point (on the PP), PP and PK. He's basically taken over the role Vermette vacated 2 years ago.

This. And he's doing it for less money and expectations.

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Michallica wrote:Brad Richards or bust please. can you imagine a top 6 of:

Michalek-Spezza-Butler
Landeskog-Richards-Alfie.

Tell me that's not a playoff team....tell me! Hopefully spezza and him end up on team canada at the worlds so spezza can put in a good word Drool

Now there's the UFA signing that would make a world of difference. Only problem is: it's not gonna happen. The Rangers can't wait to throw boatloads of money at him - that is if he doesn't re-sign in Dallas.

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I highly doubt brad richards gets $7M in cap hit. Besides, we forget that Gonchar, Alfie, and Phillips will be out of here in the next 3 years, around which time guys like Cowen, Rundblad, and 2011 1st rounder (ottawa) will need contracts. Karlsson gets his due after next season when we rid ourselves of the buyouts....and kuba.

I think its a bold move but yeah I also agree that we don't want to take too much money away from other areas.

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It's not a bold move, it's a slam-dunk move, but it ain't happening. Smile

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Michallica wrote:Brad Richards or bust please. can you imagine a top 6 of:

Michalek-Spezza-Butler
Landeskog-Richards-Alfie.

Tell me that's not a playoff team....tell me! Hopefully spezza and him end up on team canada at the worlds so spezza can put in a good word Drool

Now there's the UFA signing that would make a world of difference. Only problem is: it's not gonna happen. The Rangers can't wait to throw boatloads of money at him - that is if he doesn't re-sign in Dallas.

Where the hell do the rangers keep getting money from??? Are they planning on burying Drury?

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SpezDispenser wrote:
strachattack wrote:Apart from Laich, Yost has mentioned Chad LaRose or Kopecky as potential FA's the Sens are looking at. Purely speculative on his part.

But why? Not that I'm disputing what Yost is speculating, but I don't understand the attraction to a player like Kopecky or LaRose. They play hard, they work hark and they score in the teens, but we need to get some of the young guys in there so they can learn the ways of the NHL. As it is right now, we have enough guys to fill out the lineup, if we were going to make a move it would have to be for a guy that can score 25 goals without too much of a question.

Glencross perhaps, he has the touch around the net to net 20+, Laich for sure because he can score 20+ and he's a rock solid leader, but I think we need to be patient and not acquire any player who can't make a very noticeable difference. Otherwise, I truly think that it's better for us to do what we've been doing since we traded Fisher, Kelly etc., just letting the younger guys get a taste, seeing what works, letting Spezza have a much bigger role etc.

A healthy Michalek and Alfredsson will make a massive difference as well, although I realize that's a big 'if'.

I can see us going out and signing / trading for one gritty goalscorer kind of guy, for sure. Someone like Laich or Glencross. Or your earlier idea of trying to land an 'excess' player from a cap-strapped team, like PHI and Briere or Hartnell. Something like that.

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Michallica wrote:I highly doubt brad richards gets $7M in cap hit. Besides, we forget that Gonchar, Alfie, and Phillips will be out of here in the next 3 years, around which time guys like Cowen, Rundblad, and 2011 1st rounder (ottawa) will need contracts. Karlsson gets his due after next season when we rid ourselves of the buyouts....and kuba.

I think its a bold move but yeah I also agree that we don't want to take too much money away from other areas.

$7 million would be a decrease on his current cap hit and considering he's once again over the PPG mark this season, I don't think it's "highly doubtful". The only way to really take the cap hit down is to give him more term, something which I am not willing to do. Period.

Anyhow, it's a long shot anyway as others have pointed out.

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strachattack wrote:
I agree with you. I've been somewhat baffled as to why so many are discussing this with such great enthusiasm. I realize Murray mentioned possibly signing (or trading for) another top 6 forward but i'm more keen on letting that extra roster spot go to one of the kids. Unless Murray has some guy in mind he really wants and can deal a second rounder at the draft for then I may be ok with that as well. I've also read if this were to happen it would be for a youngish player with term left on the deal or an RFA. I think the idea would be to fleece a team than needs to shed salary. If that doesn't happen Diddle the FA market and lets see what this young team can do next year.

I would say that using that roster spot for a young player is a much better use of $$ and ultimately the roster spot. It would be great if it was Silfverberg, but I think he stays in the SEL for most if not all of next year.

Besides, I'm a big fan of Condra and especially Greening. I think if you plunk Greening next to Spezza for the whole year, he nets you high teens, to maybe 20. That's all you're really bringing in with one of these guys, unless they trade for a sniper, but I can't see giving up assets for anything right now.

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Michallica wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
Michallica wrote:Brad Richards or bust please. can you imagine a top 6 of:

Michalek-Spezza-Butler
Landeskog-Richards-Alfie.

Tell me that's not a playoff team....tell me! Hopefully spezza and him end up on team canada at the worlds so spezza can put in a good word Drool

Now there's the UFA signing that would make a world of difference. Only problem is: it's not gonna happen. The Rangers can't wait to throw boatloads of money at him - that is if he doesn't re-sign in Dallas.

Where the hell do the rangers keep getting money from??? Are they planning on burying Drury?

Maybe they will hit the jackpot again and find a taker for his contract, a la Gomez.

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Michallica wrote:
Where the hell do the rangers keep getting money from??? Are they planning on burying Drury?

They're shedding a nice amount of contracts, plus they have some young players due to come up and make a lot less. And yes, if it came down to it, they'd bury Drury if they could, but I think he has a NMC.

In that case, I could see a team with cap space (hint hint) like us or Florida etc. taking him on + a good prospect or a high pick to shelter that money. But I doubt he waives his NMC for Florida.

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well nothing wrong in signing Richards long term at a reasonable cap hit. He can play wing too so if we are indeed planning on drafting a center, well there's a very compatible line still in the top 6. We don't exactly have a great candidate yet to replace Alfie (unless we draft Lando) but you fill the void a 2nd line center with richards and for a while too until someone else is ready to come in, and then you shift him to wing.

anyways, yeah pipe dream anyways but I wouldn't be a delusional fan if I didn't think of these scenarios

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rooneypoo wrote:
I can see us going out and signing / trading for one gritty goalscorer kind of guy, for sure. Someone like Laich or Glencross. Or your earlier idea of trying to land an 'excess' player from a cap-strapped team, like PHI and Briere or Hartnell. Something like that.

IMO, that's the way to go about it. Wait for a team to get desperate and shed a contract/player without taking anything of consequence back. Briere would be perfect here - maybe a year too early, in fact, I doubt there's a maybe involved, it's a year too early.

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If not Dallas, Richards will only play for Tortorella.

I think they will sign a top-6 FW, there's a couple of good ones that we shouldn't have to break the bank on. Depends on who they draft. Might need a good LW like Glencross, Tanguay or Fleischmann perhaps. I can't see the Caps letting Laich go.

Rags have $16M cap space next year and only 14 players under contract(guys like Anisomov and Dubinsky to resign). They'll have to move Drury somehow if they have any chance to land Richards.



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Michallica wrote:well nothing wrong in signing Richards long term at a reasonable cap hit. He can play wing too so if we are indeed planning on drafting a center, well there's a very compatible line still in the top 6. We don't exactly have a great candidate yet to replace Alfie (unless we draft Lando) but you fill the void a 2nd line center with richards and for a while too until someone else is ready to come in, and then you shift him to wing.

anyways, yeah pipe dream anyways but I wouldn't be a delusional fan if I didn't think of these scenarios

Richards replaces Alfredsson IMO.

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Tanguay's interesting, that's not a bad call. If we need to sign someone, that would be a decent option, but again, why would Calgary let him go - unless he doesn't like being there.

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SpezDispenser wrote:Tanguay's interesting, that's not a bad call. If we need to sign someone, that would be a decent option, but again, why would Calgary let him go - unless he doesn't like being there.

Go to capgeek and look at Calgary Smile

Although if they get rid of Kotalik somehow they'll probably be OK

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Hoags wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Tanguay's interesting, that's not a bad call. If we need to sign someone, that would be a decent option, but again, why would Calgary let him go - unless he doesn't like being there.

Go to capgeek and look at Calgary Smile

Although if they get rid of Kotalik somehow they'll probably be OK

They'll have no choice but to re-shape things a little - if they can that is. Kotalik will have a choice: play in the AHL or be loaned to a team in Europe.

Langkow might be more desirable to teams with only a year left too, he'll have to go. Hagman is in the same boat, but I feel some team will take a chance on him - maybe. Sarich, Bouwmeester, Regher might all be on the table too.

That's one poorly run team - or it was anyway. Ohmy...

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NEELY wrote:Wiercoich was not good, looked awful and at 6'4 he looked very small, needs to put on a lot of wieght going forward. Long term project and it probably 2 or 3 years min from making The NHL.

He did not have much of a chance tonight since he was partnered with Kuba.

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