Off Season Rumours

Ev wrote:He's a 50+ point player but he is certainly not a 30 goal scorer until he actually hits that makr.

SpezDispensed wrote:He's worried that Hoffman's another spezza, in that, a guy you don't go to war with in the playoffs and spend a big dollar amount on to sign.  I can see that, but there's a lot of pros too

SpezDispensed wrote:He's worried that Hoffman's another spezza, in that, a guy you don't go to war with in the playoffs and spend a big dollar amount on to sign.  I can see that, but there's a lot of pros too

wprager wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:He's worried that Hoffman's another spezza, in that, a guy you don't go to war with in the playoffs and spend a big dollar amount on to sign.  I can see that, but there's a lot of pros too

You need both the Kanes and the Toewses.

Michallica wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:He's worried that Hoffman's another spezza, in that, a guy you don't go to war with in the playoffs and spend a big dollar amount on to sign.  I can see that, but there's a lot of pros too

If hoffman wants spezza $, then he can gtfo.  He won't, and within reason he deserves to be paid much more than he is.  $5M should be the ceiling on a long term deal.  

As for Spezza, watching him in the playoffs this season, there was only one thought in my head: 'where the Diddle was this when he was a senator?'  He figured it out under the right coach/system, and no reason to believe Hoffman can't.  At this point I wouldn't go to war with bobby ryan either, but what are you going to do?

SpezDispensed wrote:

Michallica wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:He's worried that Hoffman's another spezza, in that, a guy you don't go to war with in the playoffs and spend a big dollar amount on to sign.  I can see that, but there's a lot of pros too

If hoffman wants spezza $, then he can gtfo.  He won't, and within reason he deserves to be paid much more than he is.  $5M should be the ceiling on a long term deal.  

As for Spezza, watching him in the playoffs this season, there was only one thought in my head: 'where the Diddle was this when he was a senator?'  He figured it out under the right coach/system, and no reason to believe Hoffman can't.  At this point I wouldn't go to war with bobby ryan either, but what are you going to do?

Spezza was good in the playoffs with us too, he just doesn't have the extra gear to win.  Or at least,  he hasn't so far.   And no, war with Ryan is not a favourable thought, although I think we all hope he puts it together this year...again. ..

Flo The Action wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

Michallica wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:He's worried that Hoffman's another spezza, in that, a guy you don't go to war with in the playoffs and spend a big dollar amount on to sign.  I can see that, but there's a lot of pros too

If hoffman wants spezza $, then he can gtfo.  He won't, and within reason he deserves to be paid much more than he is.  $5M should be the ceiling on a long term deal.  

As for Spezza, watching him in the playoffs this season, there was only one thought in my head: 'where the Diddle was this when he was a senator?'  He figured it out under the right coach/system, and no reason to believe Hoffman can't.  At this point I wouldn't go to war with bobby ryan either, but what are you going to do?

Spezza was good in the playoffs with us too, he just doesn't have the extra gear to win.  Or at least,  he hasn't so far.   And no, war with Ryan is not a favourable thought, although I think we all hope he puts it together this year...again. ..

Spezza was a support player and shouldn't have been a leader. He can do alright when there's no pressure from media and when there are bigger names on the team than himself. He did alright when heatly and Alfie were in the spotlight.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

Ev wrote:

Hoags wrote:Hoffman is a keeper, when is the last time we produced a forward that scored that many goals? He has a killer shot and so what if it's on a screened goalie? That's how you score goals in the playoffs on a good goalie.

Both Dorion and Boucher mentioned Hoffman as a key player of the team I think they will resign him.

(Funny how $7M player Bobby Ryan wasn't mentioned in the same sentence)

Ryan is a better player and anyone who thinks otherwise shouldn't be relied upon to give hockey opinions. The team didn't have to mention Ryan, especially when they are asked questions about Hoffman directly that have nothing to do with Ryan. Ryan will score more goals than Hoffman this season, if I had to bet today. He is obviously a huge piece of our team and will be relied upon more than a late blooming one dimensional winger.

Again I wouldn't mind signing Hoffman, but giving him a long term deal is a recipe for disaster. He has a lot of warts and isn't an elite player.

I like Ryan and I think his best seasons as a Senator are ahead.

Ev wrote:I like Hoffman. I just see a better player in tarasenko get completely shut down in the conference final and I wonder how Hoffman will do.

Ev wrote:I like Hoffman. I just see a better player in tarasenko get completely shut down in the conference final and I wonder how Hoffman will do.

SpezDispensed wrote:

wprager wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:He's worried that Hoffman's another spezza, in that, a guy you don't go to war with in the playoffs and spend a big dollar amount on to sign.  I can see that, but there's a lot of pros too

You need both the Kanes and the Toewses.

Kane's a cup goal winning winger, I don't see any similarities,  although I know what you're saying.

tim1_2 wrote:We basically have to decide this summer if we want Hoffy here long term or not. Me, I'd trade him, but I certainly see why Dorion would be reluctant to do so.