Off Season Rumours

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:Pretty sure there were others.

Don't forget every guy on waivers, ever.

In his defense, he's cooled off waivers quite a bit.

I quite enjoyed that part.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Pretty sure there were others.

Lazar. Remember how "fantastic" he was game in and game out. Oh, and the greatest coach ever "Mac."

Again though, MacLean was amazing until he completely forgot how to coach. No if ands or buts, the guy must have had some medical issue where he forgot how to coach, it was horrible towards the end of his tenure here.

And Lazar looked great to start his career here. But there was no offense from him, if that had developed properly, he would be one of the NHLs top young guns, but obviously it hasn't and that renders him fairly redundant right now, so hopefully it comes.

No, Lazar looked just like Zibanejad did (playing safe, afraid to make a mistake), except he was not shipped back to Junior after 9 games. To say that "Lazar looked great" is a complete fabrication.

Flo The Action wrote:

wprager wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

wprager wrote:Pretty sure there were others.

Don't forget every guy on waivers, ever.

In his defense, he's cooled off waivers quite a bit.

I quite enjoyed that part.

We missed some amazing opportunities on the waiver wire over the years. There was a time when we desperately needed a little more veteran leadership and Mark Recchi was put on waivers and claimed by the Thrashers where he put up 40 points in 53 games. We could have used that in a huge way, but no...no waivers for us. Samsonov was another one. Peverley.

Whatever, we were weak with prospects at one point, now we're better, so waivers are pretty much out.

wprager wrote:No, Lazar looked just like Zibanejad did (playing safe, afraid to make a mistake), except he was not shipped back to Junior after 9 games.  To say that "Lazar looked great" is a complete fabrication.

Great, thanks Walt. I watched and know what I'm looking for. Had he scored at all, he would have taken a different path than he's on now.

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Pretty sure there were others.

Lazar. Remember how "fantastic" he was game in and game out. Oh, and the greatest coach ever "Mac."

Again though, MacLean was amazing until he completely forgot how to coach.  No if ands or buts, the guy must have had some medical issue where he forgot how to coach, it was horrible towards the end of his tenure here.

And Lazar looked great to start his career here.  But there was no offense from him, if that had developed properly, he would be one of the NHLs top young guns, but obviously it hasn't and that renders him fairly redundant right now, so hopefully it comes.

For some reason he decided to reverse his strategy and become a hardass. Obviously, that didn't sit well with the captain (who requested a trade at the end of the season). He talked about it. Stupid decision, but whatever. I'm optimistic about the coaching now.

spader wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Pretty sure there were others.

Lazar. Remember how "fantastic" he was game in and game out. Oh, and the greatest coach ever "Mac."

Again though, MacLean was amazing until he completely forgot how to coach.  No if ands or buts, the guy must have had some medical issue where he forgot how to coach, it was horrible towards the end of his tenure here.

And Lazar looked great to start his career here.  But there was no offense from him, if that had developed properly, he would be one of the NHLs top young guns, but obviously it hasn't and that renders him fairly redundant right now, so hopefully it comes.

For some reason he decided to reverse his strategy and become a hardass. Obviously, that didn't sit well with the captain (who requested a trade at the end of the season). He talked about it. Stupid decision, but whatever. I'm optimistic about the coaching now.

Me too. If for no other reason, I like that Boucher is a sports psychologist as well. I think a lot of issues from NHL players stem from their noodle more than their lack of effort or being snake-bitten.

Also, he seems like a heck of a hard working coach, always looking for new ways to be effective and upbeat. I actually like almost everything about him. I hope it works out.

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:Pretty sure there were others.

Lazar. Remember how "fantastic" he was game in and game out. Oh, and the greatest coach ever "Mac."

Again though, MacLean was amazing until he completely forgot how to coach.  No if ands or buts, the guy must have had some medical issue where he forgot how to coach, it was horrible towards the end of his tenure here.

And Lazar looked great to start his career here.  But there was no offense from him, if that had developed properly, he would be one of the NHLs top young guns, but obviously it hasn't and that renders him fairly redundant right now, so hopefully it comes.

Oooooor, he decided to start coaching and there was a mutiny?

LOL yeah MacLean actually pushed the team to be better and that was in strict violation of the rules of the Ottawa Senators Country Club.

Although he lost a lot of leadership in that room with Alfie's departure. Jason Spezza captain lol, almost forgot that actually happened.

Hoags wrote:LOL yeah MacLean actually pushed the team to be better and that was in strict violation of the rules of the Ottawa Senators Country Club.

Although he lost a lot of leadership in that room with Alfie's departure.  Jason Spezza captain lol, almost forgot that actually happened.

That's a bit reductive. He said himself that he drastically changed his style and that caused him to lose the room. I'll take his word for it.

spader wrote:

Hoags wrote:LOL yeah MacLean actually pushed the team to be better and that was in strict violation of the rules of the Ottawa Senators Country Club.

Although he lost a lot of leadership in that room with Alfie's departure.  Jason Spezza captain lol, almost forgot that actually happened.

That's a bit reductive. He said himself that he drastically changed his style and that caused him to lose the room. I'll take his word for it.

No, no, it was Spezza's fault. Please stop trying to re-write history.

Eklund says E Staal to Ottawa. He has it listed as a (mostly worthless) E4.

I could be convinced that he'd be a decent player on a 2nd liner's salary, but anything over about $4-4.5M and I'm going to be real unhappy.

Of course, this is Eklund, so it's almost certain that he made it up while sitting on the crapper.

It's always something it seems. Must be Melnyk and the budget or MacLean can't coach or Cameron can't coach or Spezza was dragging everyone down or Murray is out of touch.

Maybe the roster just isn't good enough and there's not enough depth. Turris is not a first line centre and outside of Karlsson we don't have a first pairing D. Anderson is a good goalie and could win for us with a better lineup. Coaching only helps you over achieve or maybe get over a hump. It's not going to improve this roster.

Off Season Rumour: Cap'n Clutch=WIN

Cap'n Clutch wrote:It's always something it seems. Must be Melnyk and the budget or MacLean can't coach or Cameron can't coach or Spezza was dragging everyone down or Murray is out of touch.

Maybe the roster just isn't good enough and there's not enough depth. Turris is not a first line centre and outside of Karlsson we don't have a first pairing D. Anderson is a good goalie and could win for us with a better lineup. Coaching only helps you over achieve or maybe get over a hump. It's not going to improve this roster.

Sure turris is a number 1c. And what about phaneuf? How is he not a top pairing d.

Yes, we need depth now, I agree. And a real coach.

spader wrote:Eklund says E Staal to Ottawa. He has it listed as a (mostly worthless) E4.

I could be convinced that he'd be a decent player on a 2nd liner's salary, but anything over about $4-4.5M and I'm going to be real unhappy.

Of course, this is Eklund, so it's almost certain that he made it up while sitting on the crapper.

I thought of that the other day, oddly enough. Eklund knows nothing, but it's a move that makes some sense. Except staal appears done. ..

I'd go with a cheaper and younger Sam Gagner. Nice option there for the 3RW.

SeawaySensFan wrote:I'd go with a cheaper and younger Sam Gagner. Nice option there for the 3RW.

That would be good. I could get behind that.