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451Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:18 pm

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SpezDispensed wrote:If the Sens are comfortable with Smith on the left side of Pageau, do they investigate acquiring Eberle?

Hoffman - Turris - Ryan
Mac - ZBad - Eberle
Smith - Pageau - Stone (this line was great last year)
Dzingel - Lazar - Paul
Neil

?

I can't see smith coming close to even coming close to that level of play. His shot % Was 20%, completely unsustainable. I'm not saying he can't be useful if he's needed to fill in but I can't imagine him as a regular. We should really try moving him as his cap hit is pretty minimal for now. Someone might find him attractive Ina package for a top 6 LW.

I don't see Eberle costing as little as mentioned. They won't move him for a pick either. Whoever gets moved out of there will be for a dman and possibly other forwards for depth.

452Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:26 pm

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spader wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:The Pittsburgh Penguins have 13 players making 63.6 million dollars.  So...~7 million to make up a 20 man roster.  Things are gonna be TIGHT.

LA has 57.5 committed to 12 players, so not as bad, but still...

Columbus has 59.3 committed to 13 players (holy crap!!)

Chicago has 60 million committed to 9 players
.  9!

Montreal has 54.9 committed to 11 players.

Minny has 61.41 committed to 12 players + 1.0 in a buyout to Matt the idiot Cooke

Tampa Bay has 51.4 committed to 14 players, but need to sign Stamkos, Killorn, Kucherov (oh boy!) and then has to decide what to do about signing Hedman (oh boy!), Bishop (oh dear!) and Drouin come July 1st, so they don't have it hanging over their heads all season, like Stamkos.

Some of the teams are gonna have some major issues, it isn't even a question of how do they manage it, it's a question of who is being traded or bought out.


I count 10. Toews, Kane, Hossa, Anisimov, Bickel, Kruger, Seabrook, Keith, Hjalmarsson, Crawford. I don't see how you can get to $60M with 9.

I'll tell you how I got to 60 million with 9 players...

I miscounted. Ahhhhh!

453Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Mon Jun 13, 2016 11:29 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:If the Sens are comfortable with Smith on the left side of Pageau, do they investigate acquiring Eberle?

Hoffman - Turris - Ryan
Mac - ZBad - Eberle
Smith - Pageau - Stone (this line was great last year)
Dzingel - Lazar - Paul
Neil

?

I can't see smith coming close to even coming close to that level of play. His shot % Was 20%, completely unsustainable. I'm not saying he can't be useful if he's needed to fill in but I can't imagine him as a regular. We should really try moving him as his cap hit is pretty minimal for now. Someone might find him attractive Ina package for a  top 6 LW.

I don't see Eberle costing as little as mentioned. They won't move him for a pick either. Whoever gets moved out of there will be for a dman and possibly other forwards for depth.

Meh, smith has shown he's entirely capable of playing a top 9 role. I don't see how that can be argued, he was challenged by pretty much everyone to produce - or at least don't suck and he delivered.

If the offer was right I'd trade him, but no need to be hasty unless the offer is there. I never thought I'd say this after the season before last, but he might be of use to us if we're planning on making the playoffs

454Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Tue Jun 14, 2016 12:31 am

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SpezDispensed wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:If the Sens are comfortable with Smith on the left side of Pageau, do they investigate acquiring Eberle?

Hoffman - Turris - Ryan
Mac - ZBad - Eberle
Smith - Pageau - Stone (this line was great last year)
Dzingel - Lazar - Paul
Neil

?

I can't see smith coming close to even coming close to that level of play. His shot % Was 20%, completely unsustainable. I'm not saying he can't be useful if he's needed to fill in but I can't imagine him as a regular. We should really try moving him as his cap hit is pretty minimal for now. Someone might find him attractive Ina package for a  top 6 LW.

I don't see Eberle costing as little as mentioned. They won't move him for a pick either. Whoever gets moved out of there will be for a dman and possibly other forwards for depth.

Meh, smith has shown he's entirely capable of playing a top 9 role.  I don't see how that can be argued, he was challenged by pretty much everyone to produce - or at least don't suck and he delivered.

If the offer was right I'd trade him, but no need to be hasty unless the offer is there.  I never thought I'd say this after the season before last, but he might be of use to us if we're planning on making the playoffs
I think he's a 10-15 goals guy if playing on that third line with time on the second. Not more. 20% shooting percentage is completely unsustainable. It will be pretty if he's at half of that.

I do agree that he's versatile but he's also got the highest value he's ever had and will likely command close to double what he's making now. We won't give him that nor should we.

Problem is I think Dorion was all sold on smith and won't let him go. Hopefuly our new analytics coach can maybe shine a light on the likelihood of him having a repeat.

455Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Tue Jun 14, 2016 7:43 am

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"Off Season Rumours": what's the latest?

456Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Tue Jun 14, 2016 8:14 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:"Off Season Rumours": what's the latest?

Just look above your post .... and then below.

Wonder how much Lehner will want for Alfie's old house.

Heard this morning that Derozan will opt out of his option year and head for free agency.

And Randy Carlyle is headed back to the Pond (or at least that's the rumor).


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457Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:24 am

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Colorado continues to be at the forefront of various "Off Season Rumours." The latest is they're open to trading everyone but McKinnon.

458Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:35 am

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SeawaySensFan wrote:Colorado continues to be at the forefront of various "Off Season Rumours." The latest is they're open to trading everyone but McKinnon.

Flo won't believe you...

459Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 11:58 am

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Believe this:

Bickell and Teravainen to Carolina for a 2nd and 3rd.

460Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:09 pm

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And this:

Cowen waived.

461Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:11 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:Believe this:

Bickell and Teravainen to Carolina for a 2nd and 3rd.

Wow...what's the ceiling on Teravainen?

462Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:14 pm

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I don't know that much about TT, but that seems like a pretty solid trade for Carolina. TT had 35 points last year, buried in Chicago, so he might be able to put on some muscle this off season and be a 50 point guy - or more. A good gamble. Bickell has 1 friggin year left...big deal. Carolina looks like they won this, but who knows...

463Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:16 pm

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SpezDispensed wrote:I don't know that much about TT, but that seems like a pretty solid trade for Carolina.  TT had 35 points last year, buried in Chicago, so he might be able to put on some muscle this off season and be a 50 point guy - or more.  A good gamble.  Bickell has 1 friggin year left...big deal.  Carolina looks like they won this, but who knows...

The other thing about Bickell is that his salary is actually good for Carolina. They have to get to the floor and aren't exactly a FA target. I like this trade for them. TT will grow there as well. I'd expect to see him on the second line.

464Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:18 pm

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spader wrote:
SpezDispensed wrote:I don't know that much about TT, but that seems like a pretty solid trade for Carolina.  TT had 35 points last year, buried in Chicago, so he might be able to put on some muscle this off season and be a 50 point guy - or more.  A good gamble.  Bickell has 1 friggin year left...big deal.  Carolina looks like they won this, but who knows...

The other thing about Bickell is that his salary is actually good for Carolina. They have to get to the floor and aren't exactly a FA target. I like this trade for them. TT will grow there as well. I'd expect to see him on the second line.

Yeah they were mentioned as a destination for the Datsyuk contract...

465Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:18 pm

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SpezDispensed wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Believe this:

Bickell and Teravainen to Carolina for a 2nd and 3rd.

Wow...what's the ceiling on Teravainen?

A smidge below whatever Pageau's ceiling is.

466Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:33 pm

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SpezDispensed wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Colorado continues to be at the forefront of various "Off Season Rumours." The latest is they're open to trading everyone but McKinnon.

Flo won't believe you...
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Completely right! I don't

467Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 12:36 pm

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Not wanting to fan the fire but Duschene is again being mentioned.
But I'll say it. You have to part ways with a top 4 D as part of the package.

468Off Season Rumours - Page 31 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Wed Jun 15, 2016 1:18 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:Not wanting to fan the fire but Duschene is again being mentioned.
But I'll say it. You have to part ways with a top 4 D as part of the package.

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