Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

LeCaptain wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:Boston did it.  With Bergeron and Krejci and whoever the hell else they had on their team.  By the time Chara signed that deal in the summer, the cap had gone up IIRC.

Krejci rookie season was 07-08 and Bergeron was on an entry level when Chara signed there.

What were their big money contracts.

More importantly, what does any of this have to do with Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015?

I contributed above that saying I'd trade Chiasson and Puempel for Eriksson

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

LeCaptain wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:Boston did it.  With Bergeron and Krejci and whoever the hell else they had on their team.  By the time Chara signed that deal in the summer, the cap had gone up IIRC.

Krejci rookie season was 07-08 and Bergeron was on an entry level when Chara signed there.

What were their big money contracts.

More importantly, what does any of this have to do with Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015?

I contributed above that saying I'd trade Chiasson and Puempel for Eriksson

I think we can be a little more predatory and make it a Chiasson + 3rd offer.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

LeCaptain wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:Boston did it.  With Bergeron and Krejci and whoever the hell else they had on their team.  By the time Chara signed that deal in the summer, the cap had gone up IIRC.

Krejci rookie season was 07-08 and Bergeron was on an entry level when Chara signed there.

What were their big money contracts.

More importantly, what does any of this have to do with Trade Deadline BONANZA 2015?

I contributed above that saying I'd trade Chiasson and Puempel for Eriksson

I think we can be a little more predatory and make it a Chiasson + 3rd offer.

That would be a steal.

spader wrote:Any updates regarding the pending BONANZA?!?!?

Still scheduled for March 2nd.

tim1_2 wrote:

spader wrote:Any updates regarding the pending BONANZA?!?!?

Still scheduled for March 2nd.

SpezDispensed wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Why won't Legwand be moved?

Apparently the Bs are trying to get rid of Seidenberg and Eriksson as a cap-saving measure.

Seidenberg is a LD, but I don't think he's a significant enough upgrade on what we have already.

I'll take Eriksson in a semi-soft deal, but Seidenberg...man, I loved that guy as a player for a long time, but I think the years are catching up to him in a big way.  Pass.

Doubt the Sens do any soft deals. Remember the term money in - money out.

Oglethorpe wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Why won't Legwand be moved?

Apparently the Bs are trying to get rid of Seidenberg and Eriksson as a cap-saving measure.

Seidenberg is a LD, but I don't think he's a significant enough upgrade on what we have already.

I'll take Eriksson in a semi-soft deal, but Seidenberg...man, I loved that guy as a player for a long time, but I think the years are catching up to him in a big way.  Pass.

Doubt the Sens do any soft deals.  Remember the term money in - money out.  

That's "smart spending."

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Apparently, Ken Warren of the $hitizen is speculating that Wiercioch OR Cowen could be moved and it would be somewhat motivated by cost cutting.

Translation: Cowen has little value around the league right now, unfortunately, so if he's moved, it won't be part of a package for a legit top liner.

So in other words, you don't move him now (or at all), you move Wiercioch and his 2 million bucks for a pick and you try to do the same with Legwand.  Done and done?  More to come.

I think it'll be Cowen at least, 3.7 next year and 4.5 the next. We already have 53M on the books for next year without resigning anyone and they want the payroll to be around 60M.

Oglethorpe wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Apparently, Ken Warren of the $hitizen is speculating that Wiercioch OR Cowen could be moved and it would be somewhat motivated by cost cutting.

Translation: Cowen has little value around the league right now, unfortunately, so if he's moved, it won't be part of a package for a legit top liner.

So in other words, you don't move him now (or at all), you move Wiercioch and his 2 million bucks for a pick and you try to do the same with Legwand.  Done and done?  More to come.

I think it'll be Cowen at least, 3.7 next year and 4.5 the next.  We already have 53M on the books for next year without resigning anyone and they want the payroll to be around 60M.  

What about Legwand and Wiercioch coming off the books though?

SpezDispensed wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Apparently, Ken Warren of the $hitizen is speculating that Wiercioch OR Cowen could be moved and it would be somewhat motivated by cost cutting.

Translation: Cowen has little value around the league right now, unfortunately, so if he's moved, it won't be part of a package for a legit top liner.

So in other words, you don't move him now (or at all), you move Wiercioch and his 2 million bucks for a pick and you try to do the same with Legwand.  Done and done?  More to come.

I think it'll be Cowen at least, 3.7 next year and 4.5 the next.  We already have 53M on the books for next year without resigning anyone and they want the payroll to be around 60M.  

What about Legwand and Wiercioch coming off the books though?  

Doubt Legwand can be moved.

SpezDispensed wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Apparently, Ken Warren of the $hitizen is speculating that Wiercioch OR Cowen could be moved and it would be somewhat motivated by cost cutting.

Translation: Cowen has little value around the league right now, unfortunately, so if he's moved, it won't be part of a package for a legit top liner.

So in other words, you don't move him now (or at all), you move Wiercioch and his 2 million bucks for a pick and you try to do the same with Legwand.  Done and done?  More to come.

I think it'll be Cowen at least, 3.7 next year and 4.5 the next.  We already have 53M on the books for next year without resigning anyone and they want the payroll to be around 60M.  

What about Legwand and Wiercioch coming off the books though?  

Bad math on my part. We are at 60M next year without Hoffman, Stone, Zibanejad and Chiasson signed. So they will need to cut about 9m before next season.

Buyout Greening and add Pageau saves 1M. Move Wiercioch saves 2.7. Find a taker for Legwand and add a player for 1M saves 2.5.

Still need to reduce another 3M or so assuming you resign the 4 RFAs for 9M.

I I'd be surprised if we can rid ourself of Legwand. If he was a pending FA I think it be doable for depth on some teams but with a year remaining might be tough.

Wiercioch is $2M, not $2.7M. Are you thinking of Cowen? He's $2.7M this season but cap hit is $3.1M.

wprager wrote:Wiercioch is $2M, not $2.7M.  Are you thinking of Cowen?  He's $2.7M this season but cap hit is $3.1M.

I have Weircioch at 2.7M next year with a 2M cap hit.

Oglethorpe wrote:

wprager wrote:Wiercioch is $2M, not $2.7M.  Are you thinking of Cowen?  He's $2.7M this season but cap hit is $3.1M.

I have Weircioch at 2.7M next year with a 2M cap hit.  

http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/ottawa-senators/patrick-wiercioch/

Now show me yours.

wprager wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:

wprager wrote:Wiercioch is $2M, not $2.7M.  Are you thinking of Cowen?  He's $2.7M this season but cap hit is $3.1M.

I have Weircioch at 2.7M next year with a 2M cap hit.  

http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/ottawa-senators/patrick-wiercioch/

Now show me yours.

I'm not sure anyone will be interested in a 34 year old Patty Wiercioch.

Nevermind, I see $2.7M on NHLnumbers.com.

Never liked that site so I never bookmarked them. I just google now.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

wprager wrote:

Oglethorpe wrote:

wprager wrote:Wiercioch is $2M, not $2.7M.  Are you thinking of Cowen?  He's $2.7M this season but cap hit is $3.1M.

I have Weircioch at 2.7M next year with a 2M cap hit.  

http://www.spotrac.com/nhl/ottawa-senators/patrick-wiercioch/

Now show me yours.

I'm not sure anyone will be interested in a 34 year old Patty Wiercioch.