NHL CBA Talk

Talks continue today...

http://www.sportsnet.ca/hockey/nhl-lockout/2012/11/05/nhl_nhlpa_meeting_tuesday/

Seems they are keeping the media in the dark with these sessions... which I think is a good thing as it seems to produce the most traction...

So, the NHL has said they are prepared to eat "some" of the make whole provision... players indicate owner need to eat "all" of it or no deal.

Here we go.

What's the latest, shabber?

SeawaySensFan wrote:What's the latest, shabber?

More to come...

shabbs wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:What's the latest, shabber?

More to come...

I'll be standing by, old friend.

NHLPA to have a media availability session BEFORE the negotiations... that's odd...

shabbs wrote:NHLPA to have a media availability session BEFORE the negotiations... that's odd...

Maybe they just won't go to the sessions because Bettman is there.

But even though I don't support either side in this stupid, greedy lockout.. I do agree that the players should get their full pay. The owners should be responsible for that.

Considering in the next 2 seasons about 500 or so contracts on the books will expire.

But the ones left are the biggies. Each team should pay their own 'make-whole'. So the teams that signed those stupid long term ridiculous contracts should be responsible for every cent.

The only big long-term contracts the Sens will have at this point is Spezza & Karlsson. So it wouldn't hurt them too much...

13 players are in attendance today including Crosby.

Sounds like there will be a couple of groups...

The Fehrs, Bettman and Daly in the main group and a side group for consultaiton. Players won't be in the main meeting.

John Shannon: "This is the most cautious I have ever seen Don Fehr. No rhetoric,no malice,no history lesson. Just sayin'. #tickticktick"

https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/status/265889540093390848

shabbs wrote:13 players are in attendance today including Crosby.

Sounds like there will be a couple of groups...

The Fehrs, Bettman and Daly in the main group and a side group for consultaiton. Players won't be in the main meeting.

John Shannon: "This is the most cautious I have ever seen Don Fehr. No rhetoric,no malice,no history lesson. Just sayin'. #tickticktick"

https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/status/265889540093390848

John Shannon has been dead wrong every time he's tweeted something. He makes me wish Gino "Useless" Reda posted some of his patented rubbish.

Heh. John Shannon was the one who first tweeted that Bobby Lasanga will be a Maple Leaf when hockey resumes.

We shall see...

"A Nigerian investment you say? Go on..."

shabbs wrote:13 players are in attendance today including Crosby.

Sounds like there will be a couple of groups...

The Fehrs, Bettman and Daly in the main group and a side group for consultaiton. Players won't be in the main meeting.

John Shannon: "This is the most cautious I have ever seen Don Fehr. No rhetoric,no malice,no history lesson. Just sayin'. #tickticktick"

https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/status/265889540093390848

I don't trust Donald Fehr.. and I don't trust Gary Bettman...

Meeting still ongoing and premature leaks hint at continuing meetings tomorrow. This...is.....good?

https://twitter.com/LouisJean_TVA/status/266020778741473280

Basically says positive news and good discussions ongoing.

so the meeting lasted 7 hours and there's another planned for tomorrow? seems like they're ironing things out. usually they last under an hour to see these guys can't see eye to eye.

could there be a season starting soon? It sure smells like it.

sandysensfan wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

sandysensfan wrote:Both sides had to ''travel'' to the meeting..

The WC won't be back this season. I think Detroit & Toronto would need more time to advertise the heck out of this.

I refuse to get optimistic.... hurts too much when the NHLPA shoots it down.

I will be optimistic when they sign on the dotted line.

The NHL is in constant contact with it's teams to get fan reactions. I'm sure they are aware how pissed off the fans are.. and the potential for a lot of them not returning.

The NHL is pushing this forward... the NHLPA is dragging it's heals.

I have tried to say nothing at all about this stupid lockout but... that's the most ridiculous thing I've read in a while. There's no basis for it, none. Both parties have their heads up their asses, and they each share the blame here. Dressing up Gary Bettman in hero's tights & a cape is hyperbolic, hilarious, & borderline insane.

Bettman is not a hero. I hate the little SOB. But through most of this it has been the Owners pushing this. They wanted to start talks in January but the NHLPA waited until the end of June. Then delayed further into August to respond to the NHL's first offer. It appears to be that the NHLPA has been delaying this process. Don't get me wrong.. I don't support the Owners either.

But the only way this gets done if in the meetings Bettman & Donald Fehr are absent. The players don't like or respect Bettman -- the Owners don't like Donald Fehr. Best for both sides that they are not in the discussions.

Bettman and Fehr have to be involved. Who's going to scurry out to blow smoke up the asses of the greatest fans in the world otherwise?

sandysensfan wrote:

shabbs wrote:13 players are in attendance today including Crosby.

Sounds like there will be a couple of groups...

The Fehrs, Bettman and Daly in the main group and a side group for consultaiton. Players won't be in the main meeting.

John Shannon: "This is the most cautious I have ever seen Don Fehr. No rhetoric,no malice,no history lesson. Just sayin'. #tickticktick"

https://twitter.com/JSportsnet/status/265889540093390848

I don't trust Donald Fehr.. and I don't trust Gary Bettman...

We know.

Flo The Action wrote:so the meeting lasted 7 hours and there's another planned for tomorrow? seems like they're ironing things out. usually they last under an hour to see these guys can't see eye to eye.

could there be a season starting soon? It sure smells like it.

From what I heard this morning on the Fan 590, they did not even discuss the "make whole" issue yesterday. The impression is that it will be the topic for discussion today.

Hopefully some good traction is going on.