Are the Sens done making moves?

SpezDispenser wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:
It's impossible to make accurate predictions on how a season will unfold, especially at THIS time of year, for god's sake. The east is as big a crapshoot as ever, and we're a part of that.

Are we ever...

Montreal = gonna be really good, challenge for a spot (I think get in personally)
Ottawa = lost Kuba, Foligno, gained Methot, Lundin, Latendresse, Silfverberg = just as solid, challenging for playoff spot
Carolina = look out, they're coming into a playoff spot IMO
Buffalo = lost their C, added gritty winger, not a huge fan of the makeup of that team personally, still challenge for a spot
Toronto = was challenging until Reimer got hurt, can they get a goalie, or will they have better luck with Reimer?
Pittsburgh = got worse, no question about it, we'll see what they do
Philly = not an 'elite' team anymore, but should make the playoffs
Tampa Bay = do not like anything they did. Don't think Lindback is the answer when you don't have anything else, don't like the D very much, don't like the secondary scoring there, don't really like Vinny.
Winnipeg = again, they should be challenging for a spot...
Boston = they're obviously good
NY Rangers = they're obviously good
New Jersey - big problems here as well IMO, no Parise, VERY questionable D, they'll challenge for a spot, but I think they might fall out
Islanders = same old story. They might be getting better, but I doubt they're there yet
Florida = primed to win the SE again IMO, I like the makeup of this team a lot - quite like the Sens
Washington = who knows....

SpezDispenser wrote:Pittsburgh = got worse, no question about it, we'll see what they do

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:
It's impossible to make accurate predictions on how a season will unfold, especially at THIS time of year, for god's sake. The east is as big a crapshoot as ever, and we're a part of that.

Are we ever...

Montreal = gonna be really good, challenge for a spot (I think get in personally)
Ottawa = lost Kuba, Foligno, gained Methot, Lundin, Latendresse, Silfverberg = just as solid, challenging for playoff spot
Carolina = look out, they're coming into a playoff spot IMO
Buffalo = lost their C, added gritty winger, not a huge fan of the makeup of that team personally, still challenge for a spot
Toronto = was challenging until Reimer got hurt, can they get a goalie, or will they have better luck with Reimer?
Pittsburgh = got worse, no question about it, we'll see what they do
Philly = not an 'elite' team anymore, but should make the playoffs
Tampa Bay = do not like anything they did. Don't think Lindback is the answer when you don't have anything else, don't like the D very much, don't like the secondary scoring there, don't really like Vinny.
Winnipeg = again, they should be challenging for a spot...
Boston = they're obviously good
NY Rangers = they're obviously good
New Jersey - big problems here as well IMO, no Parise, VERY questionable D, they'll challenge for a spot, but I think they might fall out
Islanders = same old story. They might be getting better, but I doubt they're there yet
Florida = primed to win the SE again IMO, I like the makeup of this team a lot - quite like the Sens
Washington = who knows....

Yah, I'll be a big fat 100 dollar bill that won't happen. I'll double it and say they won't make the playoffs.

tim1_2 wrote:I agree that last year's performance was a truer indication of where the Sens stand than the year before. Fine. Still, we made it through the year without suffering from the injury bug. If Spezza had missed twenty games, we don't make the playoffs.

I like our team's makeup, and I agree that we'll be highly competitive this year.

Our top 6 currently includes Spezza, Michalek, and Latendresse, and all three could be considered an injury risk (moreso than the average player). Also in our top 6 is the One and Only Mr The Alfie. He may not play a single more game for us.

All I'm saying is that, with a BIT of bad luck, we could easily be in a hurt locker.

tim1_2 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:Pittsburgh = got worse, no question about it, we'll see what they do

If Crosby stays healthyish, Pittsburgh got a whole lot better. Sutter is also very good. I don't see how they are that much worse off, just because they lost Staal.

We're making predictions about the season on July 5th, when the Frenzy is Far From Finished. Ludicrous.

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:
It's impossible to make accurate predictions on how a season will unfold, especially at THIS time of year, for god's sake. The east is as big a crapshoot as ever, and we're a part of that.

Are we ever...

Montreal = gonna be really good, challenge for a spot (I think get in personally)
Ottawa = lost Kuba, Foligno, gained Methot, Lundin, Latendresse, Silfverberg = just as solid, challenging for playoff spot
Carolina = look out, they're coming into a playoff spot IMO
Buffalo = lost their C, added gritty winger, not a huge fan of the makeup of that team personally, still challenge for a spot
Toronto = was challenging until Reimer got hurt, can they get a goalie, or will they have better luck with Reimer?
Pittsburgh = got worse, no question about it, we'll see what they do
Philly = not an 'elite' team anymore, but should make the playoffs
Tampa Bay = do not like anything they did. Don't think Lindback is the answer when you don't have anything else, don't like the D very much, don't like the secondary scoring there, don't really like Vinny.
Winnipeg = again, they should be challenging for a spot...
Boston = they're obviously good
NY Rangers = they're obviously good
New Jersey - big problems here as well IMO, no Parise, VERY questionable D, they'll challenge for a spot, but I think they might fall out
Islanders = same old story. They might be getting better, but I doubt they're there yet
Florida = primed to win the SE again IMO, I like the makeup of this team a lot - quite like the Sens
Washington = who knows....

Yah, I'll be a big fat 100 dollar bill that won't happen. I'll double it and say they won't make the playoffs.

NEELY wrote:
Yah, because as far as I know Theodore and Clemenson are still their goaltenders, they lost Garrison for an older and slower Kuba, and teams will actually be ready for them out of the gate this year.

NEELY wrote:The other thing that is just too funny reading from Sens fans is how bad Kuba was 2 seasons ago, he's worthless, buy him out, lol, but now he's a huge loss and Methot isn't anywhere near the D man he is.

Honestly, the Sens fans as a whole like the Leafs and Habs are just as stupid.

tim1_2 wrote:Let's not rehash the Kuba discussion. It's ancient history now.

SpezDispenser wrote:

NEELY wrote:
Yah, because as far as I know Theodore and Clemenson are still their goaltenders, they lost Garrison for an older and slower Kuba, and teams will actually be ready for them out of the gate this year.

They're gonna add another D-man I would expect, but the real allure of that team is how beautifully talented their prospects are. Huberdeau is awesome, he'll push for rookie of the year IMO, Gudbranson is probably ready to step in full time and contribute, they have Markstrom who's pretty much ready for action, although it appears he'll get one more year in the AHL. But if Theodore or Clemmenson suck, he's in pretty quick and he's good.

Colby Robak is a name to keep in mind, that guy is very talented and could play a 5/6 role next year on their blueline.

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Let's not rehash the Kuba discussion. It's ancient history now.

Just saying, the people who are crying about Kuba being replaced by Methot are the same ones that wanted him traded for AIDS.

NEELY wrote:

hemlock wrote:

NEELY wrote:If the Sens can make the playoffs and avoid the Pens... could be a solid run. They are not far off from going after the Bruins in the division and really making some noise. They are a good team.

One big time winger and the Sens will be ultra tough to play against.

This seems incredibly optimistic to me. Buffalo will be better (and were in the latter part of last season) so it's dismissive to assume that the division is a two-horse race.

Tough to play against and winning enough to make the playoffs aren't mutually exclusive. Despite the fact that NJ will probably be worse, Carolina and TB will be better almost assuredly than they were last year.

The Sens are in tough to make the playoffs even if they overachieve like they did last year. Let's not kid ourselves here.

Oh yah... Leino is for sure a #1 center. Their defense is "meh". Might be a little grittier but that's about it. Don't see how TB is going to be better... their defense is awful and they have no idea how Lindback is going to perform.

Carolina... marginally better IMO but that's a team that can grow a little. Staal isn't a huge upgrade over Sutter.

Everyone keeps saying "this team will be better, that team will be better" year after year... it's always the same thing. Philly is already worse, NJ is already worse, Tampa did nothing but add big contracts with little value attached to them, Montreal, Toronto, and NYI won't be much better.

The East sucks.

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Let's envision a scenario where The Alfie retires (blasphemy, I know), Spezza gets injured, 9MM gets injured, Latendresse gets injured, Silf doesn't find his groove, and our D struggles.

I think the one thing we know for sure at this point is that will be rock solid. As we saw at the start of last year, though, that can only get you so far if the D in front of you is a mess.

Sure. If Pitts loses Malkin, Crosby, and Neal they might be in trouble too.

Yes, I agree, if everything goes wrong for the Sens like it did 2 seasons ago they are in trouble. Might as well plan to replace the team just incase the plane crashes too while everyone is at it.

NEELY wrote:The other thing that is just too funny reading from Sens fans is how bad Kuba was 2 seasons ago, he's worthless, buy him out, lol, but now he's a huge loss and Methot isn't anywhere near the D man he is.

Honestly, the Sens fans as a whole like the Leafs and Habs are just as stupid.

wprager wrote:

NEELY wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:Let's envision a scenario where The Alfie retires (blasphemy, I know), Spezza gets injured, 9MM gets injured, Latendresse gets injured, Silf doesn't find his groove, and our D struggles.

I think the one thing we know for sure at this point is that will be rock solid. As we saw at the start of last year, though, that can only get you so far if the D in front of you is a mess.

Sure. If Pitts loses Malkin, Crosby, and Neal they might be in trouble too.

Yes, I agree, if everything goes wrong for the Sens like it did 2 seasons ago they are in trouble. Might as well plan to replace the team just incase the plane crashes too while everyone is at it.

Pens might be in trouble if MAF plays like he did in April.