2012/13 Lineup

NEELY wrote:
Lots of options going forward. DOn't think it's out of the question that they carry 23 players either. 14 forwards and 7 D is how they will start the season IMO. I also think they let Daugavins walk as well.

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Big Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:zero chance they sibject Zib to Bingo. Every other Swede has hated it and he was the last cut last year. He will make the team this year. JOB on a two-way.

I agree with what you're saying that he won't get assigned to Binghamton, but he would not hate it and would not be opposed to going to the AHL. He has already stated such, so has Silfverberg, etc. They will do whatever the team asks of them. Sure for guys from Stockholm it's a bit of a drag living in Binghamton, but for other guys from small Swedish towns, it's not that big of a deal.

I've said before that I could see him never playing Binghamton as it's very, very rare for a top Swedish pick to play in the AHL. It's usually straight to the NHL for them.

Unless they happen backstop their team to the Calder Cup as a rookie, winning the MVP award while doing it as a teenager. Then you get to stay another two years.

Lehner's not a high pick Swede. And he's a goalie.

I'm talking Top 10 picks.

You never said that. We were discussing Sens prospects. Zibanejad is the only one who is top-10.

wprager wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
So what's Murray to do with all the one-ways? He has to make some trades, right?

Been saying this for a while. Forget about one-ways versus two-ways, they are at exactly 50 contracts, with the following RFAs left to sign:

O'Brien (he *will* get a contract)
Daugavins (he's filed for arbitration, they may be stuck with him whether they like it or not)
Gryba (the only right-handed D-man in the organization who is anywhere close to ready)
DaCosta

And I'm ignoring Filatov; he's an RFA but he's not getting a contract.

There will be moves.

wprager wrote:I don't even understand what you just said. Were you talking only about top-10 picked Swedes or about all drafted Swedes?

Big Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

wprager wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:zero chance they sibject Zib to Bingo. Every other Swede has hated it and he was the last cut last year. He will make the team this year. JOB on a two-way.

I agree with what you're saying that he won't get assigned to Binghamton, but he would not hate it and would not be opposed to going to the AHL. He has already stated such, so has Silfverberg, etc. They will do whatever the team asks of them. Sure for guys from Stockholm it's a bit of a drag living in Binghamton, but for other guys from small Swedish towns, it's not that big of a deal.

I've said before that I could see him never playing Binghamton as it's very, very rare for a top Swedish pick to play in the AHL. It's usually straight to the NHL for them.

Unless they happen backstop their team to the Calder Cup as a rookie, winning the MVP award while doing it as a teenager. Then you get to stay another two years.

Lehner's not a high pick Swede. And he's a goalie.

I'm talking Top 10 picks.

You never said that. We were discussing Sens prospects. Zibanejad is the only one who is top-10.

Yes, yes I did. I am referring to all Swedes drafted to the NHL. Name one who has been picked Top 10 and didn't start in the NHL after playing in Sweden. Don't think you can.

wprager wrote:I don't even understand what you just said. Were you talking only about top-10 picked Swedes or about all drafted Swedes?

NEELY wrote:
Lots of options going forward. DOn't think it's out of the question that they carry 23 players either. 14 forwards and 7 D is how they will start the season IMO. I also think they let Daugavins walk as well.

Hoags wrote:

NEELY wrote:
Lots of options going forward. DOn't think it's out of the question that they carry 23 players either. 14 forwards and 7 D is how they will start the season IMO. I also think they let Daugavins walk as well.

Daugavins filed for arbitration, if the arbitrator awards him a 1-way contract we're stuck with him unless he's awarded a high amount in which case we can walk and he's a UFA.

If they wanted to let him go, they could have not qualified him but they did.

SpezDispenser wrote:
Good, I want to keep him. He's a rabbit's foot as well IMO.

Hoags wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:
Good, I want to keep him. He's a rabbit's foot as well IMO.

Butler, Daugavins and Boro are the extra players. One of these 3 has to disappear or Zib goes to Bingo per your roster above.

Riprock wrote:Just to play Devil's Avocado here, Lars Jonsson, drafted 7th overall by Boston in 2000, signed as a UFA by Philly after Boston failed to sign him under the old CBA, and alternated his first pro year between the Flyers and Phantoms.

Also, since 1992, there have only been 13 Swedes drafted in the top 10:

'93: Niklas Sundstrom
'99: H. Sedin, D. Sedin
2000: Lars Jonsson
'06: Nicklas Backstrom
'10: Hedman, Ekman-Larsson, Paajarvi-Svensson
'11: Landeskog, Larsson, Zibanejad, Brodin
'12: Lindholm

There was the same # of Swedes selected in the top 10 in 2011 alone than in the entire decade+ from 1992-2006.

Riprock wrote:Just to play Devil's Avocado here, Lars Jonsson, drafted 7th overall by Boston in 2000, signed as a UFA by Philly after Boston failed to sign him under the old CBA, and alternated his first pro year between the Flyers and Phantoms.

Also, since 1992, there have only been 13 Swedes drafted in the top 10:

'93: Niklas Sundstrom
'99: H. Sedin, D. Sedin
2000: Lars Jonsson
'06: Nicklas Backstrom
'10: Hedman, Ekman-Larsson, Paajarvi-Svensson
'11: Landeskog, Larsson, Zibanejad, Brodin
'12: Lindholm

There was the same # of Swedes selected in the top 10 in 2011 alone than in the entire decade+ from 1992-2006.

spader wrote:

Riprock wrote:Just to play Devil's Avocado here, Lars Jonsson, drafted 7th overall by Boston in 2000, signed as a UFA by Philly after Boston failed to sign him under the old CBA, and alternated his first pro year between the Flyers and Phantoms.

Also, since 1992, there have only been 13 Swedes drafted in the top 10:

'93: Niklas Sundstrom
'99: H. Sedin, D. Sedin
2000: Lars Jonsson
'06: Nicklas Backstrom
'10: Hedman, Ekman-Larsson, Paajarvi-Svensson
'11: Landeskog, Larsson, Zibanejad, Brodin
'12: Lindholm

There was the same # of Swedes selected in the top 10 in 2011 alone than in the entire decade+ from 1992-2006.

Big Ev wrote:Random thoughts. Ottawa has a boatload of righties on their not-so-distant future forward corps:

Silfverberg(R)-Spezza(R)-Michalek(L)
Zibanejad(R)-Turris(R)-Stone(R)
Regin(L)-Smith(L)-Neil(R)
Greening(L)-OBrien(R)-Condra(R)

Noesen(R), Petersson(R), Hoffman(L), Puempel(L)

wprager wrote:

spader wrote:

Riprock wrote:Just to play Devil's Avocado here, Lars Jonsson, drafted 7th overall by Boston in 2000, signed as a UFA by Philly after Boston failed to sign him under the old CBA, and alternated his first pro year between the Flyers and Phantoms.

Also, since 1992, there have only been 13 Swedes drafted in the top 10:

'93: Niklas Sundstrom
'99: H. Sedin, D. Sedin
2000: Lars Jonsson
'06: Nicklas Backstrom
'10: Hedman, Ekman-Larsson, Paajarvi-Svensson
'11: Landeskog, Larsson, Zibanejad, Brodin
'12: Lindholm

There was the same # of Swedes selected in the top 10 in 2011 alone than in the entire decade+ from 1992-2006.

I don't see any horns.