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3012012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Mon May 07, 2012 7:18 pm

Riprock


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You always hear that players and management do no want to talk business during playoffs. They prefer to get a deal done before or after.

They will find a way to re-sign him at all costs. Should he ant to leave, I jump all over that of course. I just think it is wishful thinking.

3022012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Mon May 07, 2012 7:25 pm

PTFlea


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Riprock wrote:You always hear that players and management do no want to talk business during playoffs. They prefer to get a deal done before or after.

They will find a way to re-sign him at all costs. Should he ant to leave, I jump all over that of course. I just think it is wishful thinking.

It's more than wishful thinking, it's a set up for disappointment. That guy is amazing, if the Devils lose him...he'll go somewhere in the US I'm sure.

3032012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Mon May 07, 2012 7:46 pm

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I think he'll stick with the devils once they get rid of Volchenkov's contract....but they got a whole summer to figure that out. I was secretly hoping for Florida, and then Philly to knock out Jersey because I think a final 4 appearance will re-ignite his faith in the franchise. And as mentioned already, he's the captain and its a feel-good story in Newark.

3042012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Mon May 07, 2012 7:54 pm

Ev

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the problem with the Devils is money. They are almost broke if reports are true

3052012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Mon May 07, 2012 8:52 pm

PTFlea

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^ True.

3062012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Mon May 07, 2012 9:24 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:
sandysensfan wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
NEELY wrote:All depends what they are looking for. IMO they need a bomb of a LH shot on the 1st PP unit to take some pressure off Karlsson and Spezza.

So we sign Garrison and trade for Murray, and our D looks like this:

Garrison - Karlsson
Phillips - Murray
Cowen - Gonchar
Borowiecki

Oh dear, Murray probably plays the left side, and I just put him on his off-side...universe...collapsing....

Well, ignoring that possibility, that looks to be some solid D, other than what people may think about Gonchar.

If Garrison is that good.... don't you think Florida would re-sign him?

There's a problem with waiting this long IMO. Same with Parise.

If those guys really wanted to be in their respective cities with their clubs, they would have signed by now. Parise would have given them a bit of a break and taken a 6 x 6 or 6.5 max. Garrison would have agreed to a 3.5 X 3, but the fact that it's not done likely means they want to test the market and see what kind of offers they get - and then if they go back to those clubs and they agree to match the highest offer, it all works out - but how often have you seen that?

Almost the same issue with Kuba. What's done - or not done in these instances - speak volumes.

Chris Neil signed after noon on July 1 so I wouldn't read too much into things.

Fact of the matter is the biggest need will be a top 4 D man who plays a physical game. Yah, there is room for a top 6 forward but it isn't such a huge need that can't be filled from within (at least not potentially). I don't think they will sell the farm to get that D man but if the right deal comes along they have the 1st rounder, they have Zibanejad, and some other parts to go along with that.

I say Zibanejad because Da Costa may be the 3rd line center they truly want. I'm not saying Zibanejad is a bust or will bust or suggesting he won't be a beast but he could very well be a chip they play with if the RIGHT DEAL came along.

3072012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Mon May 07, 2012 9:32 pm

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Da Costa will never be a third line centre. He is pure offence.

edit: he could be if they wanted scoring on all three lines but I would prefer the grinding bottom 2 lines. Not my decision to make though lol

3082012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Mon May 07, 2012 10:39 pm

PTFlea

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They won't deal Zibanejad this year - I have strong doubts they do period. At the very worst, I think he can slot in as a 3C who can score, grind and hit, something that Da Costa most likely will have issues doing because of his size. In 2-3 years we might see one of them (or another high end prospect like Puempel) be traded, but I don't think it'll be this summer.

I've been wrong before - a fair bit too, so we'll see.

3092012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Mon May 07, 2012 10:54 pm

Ev

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SpezDispenser wrote:They won't deal Zibanejad this year - I have strong doubts they do period. At the very worst, I think he can slot in as a 3C who can score, grind and hit, something that Da Costa most likely will have issues doing because of his size. In 2-3 years we might see one of them (or another high end prospect like Puempel) be traded, but I don't think it'll be this summer.

I've been wrong before - a fair bit too, so we'll see.

They won't trade him. He's the exact type of player this team lacks. Puempel is a guy you can easily part with.

3102012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Tue May 08, 2012 2:40 am

Flo The Action

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see I disagree, pumpel could end up being a second line sniper we need. Note sure if he could become a 1st liner but you need one of those guys on the second line. Zib seems more of a gamble at times. he can play the NHL I don't doubt but can he be an effective productive top 6 as he was slotted leaves to be confirmed.

3112012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Tue May 08, 2012 7:28 am

tim1_2

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sandysensfan wrote:

If Garrison is that good.... don't you think Florida would re-sign him?

It takes two sides to sign a deal. Florida has likely talked to his agent about resigning, but if I'm one of the top-scoring d-men (Garrison), and I know the free agent market this summer is weak (it is), and this is my shot at my first big money deal (it is), then I really want to get to free agency and see what kind of deal I can get.

We'll see.

3122012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Tue May 08, 2012 7:42 am

NEELY


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Garrison is moving on for sure. This may indeed be his only pay day and it very well could be a case of buyer beware. Penner is a guy that looks like might get an extension by the Kings based on this playoff. If they win the cup he's staying.

3132012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Tue May 08, 2012 7:55 am

NEELY


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In all seriousness I think Brennan steal his articles from this website. How long ago did we talk about moving Anderson and how long ago did we start talking about Penner being a target?

3142012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Tue May 08, 2012 8:46 am

tim1_2

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If his next article is about Garrison.....

3152012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Tue May 08, 2012 9:35 am

PTFlea

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tim1_2 wrote:
sandysensfan wrote:

If Garrison is that good.... don't you think Florida would re-sign him?

It takes two sides to sign a deal. Florida has likely talked to his agent about resigning, but if I'm one of the top-scoring d-men (Garrison), and I know the free agent market this summer is weak (it is), and this is my shot at my first big money deal (it is), then I really want to get to free agency and see what kind of deal I can get.

We'll see.

Exactly. He'll see what he can get from teams like Ottawa.

3162012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Tue May 08, 2012 9:36 am

PTFlea

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NEELY wrote:Garrison is moving on for sure. This may indeed be his only pay day and it very well could be a case of buyer beware. Penner is a guy that looks like might get an extension by the Kings based on this playoff. If they win the cup he's staying.

He's doing well under Sutter. I wouldn't be surprised at all.

3172012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Tue May 08, 2012 9:40 am

PTFlea

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Just read that article and I feel confident in saying that's not a picture of Penner attached to it.

3182012/13 Lineup - Page 21 Empty Re: 2012/13 Lineup Tue May 08, 2012 11:16 am

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Flo The Action wrote:see I disagree, pumpel could end up being a second line sniper we need. Note sure if he could become a 1st liner but you need one of those guys on the second line. Zib seems more of a gamble at times. he can play the NHL I don't doubt but can he be an effective productive top 6 as he was slotted leaves to be confirmed.

He is guaranteed to be an effective top 6 player. Matt Puempel has a long ways to go before even getting into an NHL game. Zibanejad already has 9.

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