2012/13 Lineup

Going into the last year of his deal, he couldn't be "really expensive". I stand by my assessment of "not too expensive"!!!!

Couldn't see him garnering a first round pick or top-tier forward...so maybe a prospect or middle-tier forward.

Just because this is an Ottawa Senators thread, let's say the deal is Foligno for Murray. Do you do it?

tim1_2 wrote:Going into the last year of his deal, he couldn't be "really expensive". I stand by my assessment of "not too expensive"!!!!

Couldn't see him garnering a first round pick or top-tier forward...so maybe a prospect or middle-tier forward.

Just because this is an Ottawa Senators thread, let's say the deal is Foligno for Murray. Do you do it?

Not without an extension IMO.

So let's say Foligno's new contract is $2.0M for two years, and we can trade that for Murray, after having negotiated a 3-year $3M/year contract for him. Do you do that?

tim1_2 wrote:So let's say Foligno's new contract is $2.0M for two years, and we can trade that for Murray, after having negotiated a 3-year $3M/year contract for him. Do you do that?

Yes.

tim1_2 wrote:So let's say Foligno's new contract is $2.0M for two years, and we can trade that for Murray, after having negotiated a 3-year $3M/year contract for him. Do you do that?

I would personally, yes. Murray is a warrior. 143 blocks, 126 hits in 60 games = a beautiful intimidation factor on the back end. Nice replacement for Kuba too.

Now...what to do about the offense from the backend...

Why, where is it said that Murray's on the block anyway?

SpezDispenser wrote:Why, where is it said that Murray's on the block anyway?

Douglas Murray on the block?!?!?!? What the?!?!?!?!

SpezDispenser wrote:Why, where is it said that Murray's on the block anyway?

It's a hypothetical situation with the type of d-man Ottawa may have interest in.

tim1_2 wrote:So let's say Foligno's new contract is $2.0M for two years, and we can trade that for Murray, after having negotiated a 3-year $3M/year contract for him. Do you do that?

I would. I like Foligno, but you have to give to get. Murray's a beast.

He's certainly the kind of D-man we could use. Still like Garrison after finding out he blocks shots and hits too.

Murray also fills the 'ugly' void that has been vacated by A-Train and Leclaire.

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:All depends what they are looking for. IMO they need a bomb of a LH shot on the 1st PP unit to take some pressure off Karlsson and Spezza.

So we sign Garrison and trade for Murray, and our D looks like this:

Garrison - Karlsson
Phillips - Murray
Cowen - Gonchar
Borowiecki

Oh dear, Murray probably plays the left side, and I just put him on his off-side...universe...collapsing....

Well, ignoring that possibility, that looks to be some solid D, other than what people may think about Gonchar.

If Garrison is that good.... don't you think Florida would re-sign him?

sandysensfan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:

NEELY wrote:All depends what they are looking for. IMO they need a bomb of a LH shot on the 1st PP unit to take some pressure off Karlsson and Spezza.

So we sign Garrison and trade for Murray, and our D looks like this:

Garrison - Karlsson
Phillips - Murray
Cowen - Gonchar
Borowiecki

Oh dear, Murray probably plays the left side, and I just put him on his off-side...universe...collapsing....

Well, ignoring that possibility, that looks to be some solid D, other than what people may think about Gonchar.

If Garrison is that good.... don't you think Florida would re-sign him?

There's a problem with waiting this long IMO. Same with Parise.

If those guys really wanted to be in their respective cities with their clubs, they would have signed by now. Parise would have given them a bit of a break and taken a 6 x 6 or 6.5 max. Garrison would have agreed to a 3.5 X 3, but the fact that it's not done likely means they want to test the market and see what kind of offers they get - and then if they go back to those clubs and they agree to match the highest offer, it all works out - but how often have you seen that?

Almost the same issue with Kuba. What's done - or not done in these instances - speak volumes.

Not sure I can see Parise leaving. Captain of a team on the verge of going to the East Finals.

Riprock wrote:Not sure I can see Parise leaving. Captain of a team on the verge of going to the East Finals.

Yeah, as I was writing it I thought that might be an exception to the rule. Still...most of the time that rule comes into play big time. If you can't put pen to paper during the many, many months available for you to negotiate, you're just not trying very hard IMO.

You always hear that players and management do no want to talk business during playoffs. They prefer to get a deal done before or after.

They will find a way to re-sign him at all costs. Should he ant to leave, I jump all over that of course. I just think it is wishful thinking.

Riprock wrote:You always hear that players and management do no want to talk business during playoffs. They prefer to get a deal done before or after.

They will find a way to re-sign him at all costs. Should he ant to leave, I jump all over that of course. I just think it is wishful thinking.

It's more than wishful thinking, it's a set up for disappointment. That guy is amazing, if the Devils lose him...he'll go somewhere in the US I'm sure.

I think he'll stick with the devils once they get rid of Volchenkov's contract....but they got a whole summer to figure that out. I was secretly hoping for Florida, and then Philly to knock out Jersey because I think a final 4 appearance will re-ignite his faith in the franchise. And as mentioned already, he's the captain and its a feel-good story in Newark.