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FINAL: Ottawa 6 @ Winnipeg 4, 8:30PM, Tuesday, November 29, 2011

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
LeKid wrote:
NEELY wrote:So Zack Smith is a pretty good player. It's pretty amazing looking at the kids Murray has drafted and what they are doing now. Even some Mucklet draft picks in Greening, Condra, Regin, and Daugavins have turned out.

Anyways, the Sens are going to be hell to play against in 3, 4 years.

On a much different note, Alfi looks like he is almost done. Just can't keep up with the pace and isn't as strong as he used to be. Sad to see.

On the other hand, winning games without Alfie really contributing is a major step forward.

As for the drafting, I think Pierre Dorion and Tim Murray deserve the biggest credit. THey forced Murray to take Karlsson which is probably our best pick since Daniel Alfredsson, franchise changing pick.

Let's not forget Foligno here. Amazing to think what a coaching change and a youth injection could do to a team. Spezza and Michalek both look great. Cowen, Condra, Smith, and Daugavins looks like vets out there, and Foligno has really picked up his game.

It will be interesting to see how the Sens line up when Neil, Carkner, and Regin draw back into the picture.

Funny because the results were there last year before the coaching change. People have really short memories.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Funny because the results were there last year before the coaching change. People have really short memories.

Exactly! Remember how we were all talking about how the kids looked great and Spezza looked great and everything looked up by the end of last year? This is a continuation of the end of last year...not a new development.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Big Ev wrote:I can't believe Zenon Konopka scores over a PPG in junior and the AHL

I can. Look at all the 67's "stars" that become career ECHLers, AHLers or worse.

Agreed, but he just looks so awkward skating on the ice. He looks like a wrestler who there on some hockey equipment.

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Ha...awkward skating strides...whatever, Konopka knows his role and plays it well...plus he can put the puck in the net.

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tim1_2 wrote:
Exactly! Remember how we were all talking about how the kids looked great and Spezza looked great and everything looked up by the end of last year? This is a continuation of the end of last year...not a new development.

That was supposed to be meaningless because the pressure was off and we had a bunch of rookies from Bingo who were desperate to prove themselves, not to mention Anderson being a god between the pipes.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
It will be interesting to see how the Sens line up when Neil, Carkner, and Regin draw back into the picture.

I think we're at 23 players now, I imagine Rundblad will go to Bingo and they'll make room for him at the deadline by dealing Lee/Carkner.

Neil will draw back in so Butler will be a scratch ?

As for Regin, depends on how Foligno does as a centre.

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tim1_2 wrote:Ha...awkward skating strides...whatever, Konopka knows his role and plays it well...plus he can put the puck in the net.

not at the NHL level...my only point was how he hell is he so offensive in lower levels. I guess the leagues are that bad.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
Funny because the results were there last year before the coaching change. People have really short memories.

+1.

Those kids are all for real. From Greening to Z.Smith, Daugavins, Condra, Cowen. All looking real positive so far!

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Big Ev wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:Ha...awkward skating strides...whatever, Konopka knows his role and plays it well...plus he can put the puck in the net.

not at the NHL level...my only point was how he hell is he so offensive in lower levels. I guess the leagues are that bad.

Pretty much all NHLers had good junior careers, and were the top scorers at some point.

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and I don't understand how people still think the Butler shot was a goal. Did you not hear the defining PING? There's no other way it makes that sound other than hitting dead on and coming back out.

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spader wrote:I must be blind as well. I can't tell from that angle. I think I'm less sure now that I've seen the video.

I saw the replay during the game, from a different angle (i.e., lower, and more from centre). Puck definitely hit the post square on. I thought it was in for sure, too, and that's why I watched the replay so closely, and looked it over a few times on the PVR. Total non-issue.

Wanna come over to my house I'll show it to you on the PVR. Went frame by freaking frame. You *never* see the puck enter the net because it was so freaking fast. Talk about bullet time. There is no way a puck shot that hard bounces off the post and then flutters in an arc following the outline of the back of the net. It went off the post and in, rimmed around the back of the net and out again before anyone knew what happened.

Potvin caught it though. When Brown yells "Butler hits the post!" you hear Denis go "Wait a minute ... was that the post?" I was convinced it was in the time I saw it live, it was confirmed by Dash's video, and I just reviewed it on my PVR. *IN* You really have to believe in unicorns if you think that puck went post-to-post in an arc the way it was shot.

Don't look at the replay. Look at the original camera angle, they switch from the reverse angle shot just after Greening passes it off to Butler to the main camera at center ice, and you clearly see the puck rim around the back of the net.

Settle down. It hit the post bang on. For sure. That's why no one, including Butler, even made a motion to raise their hands.

This

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We seem to struggle against physical aggressive teams.

Winnipeg came out fast and hard with an aggressive forecheck and we struggled to get out of our own end and didn't really respond physically, Neil would have come in handy.

Probably no accident they used that strategy on us. The 7-1 blowout to Colorado was the same, Colorado was far more aggressive on the forecheck than other opponents.

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With the exception of Phillips, I really thought that our defence wilted a little under the forecheck. Showed some inexperience. Cowen was a -3 and I thought Rundblad was really exposed.

Doesn't help that Kuba was injured and we were shorthanded on D, of course.

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Hoags wrote:We seem to struggle against physical aggressive teams.

Winnipeg came out fast and hard with an aggressive forecheck and we struggled to get out of our own end and didn't really respond physically, Neil would have come in handy.

Probably no accident they used that strategy on us. The 7-1 blowout to Colorado was the same, Colorado was far more aggressive on the forecheck than other opponents.

For sure Neil will help that a lot, but I'm not sure why we wilt like that. Things will change in the coming year(s), but for now that's something I've noticed as well.

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Cowen has 10 SOG in 24 games. C;mon man.

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Question is, if Kuba misses any games, who replaces him? A lot of people on this site believe you cannot play a right handed defenceman on the left side... and since Lee is a right handed defenceman, and so is Carkner (also injured), seems like a call-up will have to be made.

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Dash wrote:Question is, if Kuba misses any games, who replaces him? A lot of people on this site believe you cannot play a right handed defenceman on the left side... and since Lee is a right handed defenceman, and so is Carkner (also injured), seems like a call-up will have to be made.

MacLean would play someone on their off-side and get Lee in. I can't imagine the off-side thing coming into play here in this specific instance.

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Rooney says....

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SpezDispenser wrote:
Dash wrote:Question is, if Kuba misses any games, who replaces him? A lot of people on this site believe you cannot play a right handed defenceman on the left side... and since Lee is a right handed defenceman, and so is Carkner (also injured), seems like a call-up will have to be made.

MacLean would play someone on their off-side and get Lee in. I can't imagine the off-side thing coming into play here in this specific instance.

The "off-side thing" is the single most important factor in ice hockey and likely all of sports at the amateur, international and professional levels.

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