GDT: Ottawa @ Atlanta - Sun. Mar. 27 @ 2pm ET

tim1_2 wrote:That was a fairly useless point Ottawa got, but it's quite fun to watch them right now.

Dunno why Clouston picked Shannon to go in the shootout again. His move against the Rangers was TERRIBLE, and he tried the exact same move again...and it was STILL TERRIBLE.

wprager wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

Every media person/hockey expert says there is no chance.

Is that the right decision - try to be unbiased though. There's no use responding if you're already set that Clouston won't return. If he can coach these guys, guys like Greening, Butler, Condra, Smith, could he not take the reigns next year, considering we're icing a very young team? The only guy that I can agree is better is Muller - and even then, better the guy who coached through the system, no? I was always a Clouston supporter until this year - a year where even with atrocious goaltending he made some terrible choices as head coach - but still, as of right now, we're seeing a team that we could be comfortable with even in loss next year - that is, they seem like they care, they work hard, and they're much faster. I don't see what the team would have to lose by re-signing him right now.

Umm, why??!

Coaching career

Muller began his coaching career with the Queen's University Golden Gaels. In 2005-06, Muller was Head Coach of the Queen’s University Golden Gaels, in his hometown of Kingston, posting an 8-13-1-2 record in the Ontario University Athletics Conference.

Muller also held the title of Assistant Coach to Marc Habscheid with Team Canada, winning the gold medal at the 2005 Lotto Cup Tournament in Slovakia. In March 2006, he served as Assistant Coach to Greg Gilbert at the Under-18 World Championship.

Kirk Muller returned to the Montreal Canadiens organization on June 20, 2006, when he was named Assistant Coach of the Canadiens. He continues to serve in this post.

What, in that resume, screams that he's better than Clouston?

By comparison, here is Clouston's *NHL* coaching record: 116 games, 63 wins, 43 losses, 10 OTLs. He's also had a ton more coaching experience outside of the NHL.

Big Ev wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:That was a fairly useless point Ottawa got, but it's quite fun to watch them right now.

Dunno why Clouston picked Shannon to go in the shootout again. His move against the Rangers was TERRIBLE, and he tried the exact same move again...and it was STILL TERRIBLE.

The guy is all over Shannon's nuts and it's pretty sad.

Michallica wrote:

Big Ev wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:That was a fairly useless point Ottawa got, but it's quite fun to watch them right now.

Dunno why Clouston picked Shannon to go in the shootout again. His move against the Rangers was TERRIBLE, and he tried the exact same move again...and it was STILL TERRIBLE.

The guy is all over Shannon's nuts and it's pretty sad.

? seriously? Shannon has been one of our best players and has shown nice hands (see Tampa Bay shorthanded goal). Why is it that he picks one of our better performing players and suddenly clouston is in love with shannon? Diddle I know ppl can't wait for clouston to be gone, but it gets ridiculous when people look for everything and anything to attack the guy with.

Get no credit when the team actually does something right, and take all the blame when nothing goes their way....its a bogus 'rule' that unfortunately brainwashes too many fans.

Michallica wrote:team's winning.....'well that's cuz of anderson'. team's losing....'Cussing clouston can't do jack, makes terrible decisions all the time'

give me a Cussing break already

Michallica wrote:team's winning.....'well that's cuz of anderson'. team's losing....'Cussing clouston can't do jack, makes terrible decisions all the time'

Big Ev wrote:
Clouston has been in love with Shannon for years now, I think we all know that. It was a lighthearted joke, lighten up a bit.

As for you saying CC gets no credit, actually, people have been giving way too much credit to him for last year's team.

Hoags wrote:

Michallica wrote:team's winning.....'well that's cuz of anderson'. team's losing....'Cussing clouston can't do jack, makes terrible decisions all the time'

The team went from 5th in the East to a lottery team in the span of a year. You can't have a massive collapse like that without at least considering holding the coaching staff partially accountable. The team looked bad right out of training camp and never improved. I'm not holding Clouston responsible but I think we can do better. He's not doing himself any favors telling the media it's bad goaltending and a few scapegoats like Kovalev and Fisher who were holding us back.

Hoags wrote:

Michallica wrote:team's winning.....'well that's cuz of anderson'. team's losing....'Cussing clouston can't do jack, makes terrible decisions all the time'

The team went from 5th in the East to a lottery team in the span of a year. You can't have a massive collapse like that without at least considering holding the coaching staff partially accountable. The team looked bad right out of training camp and never improved. I'm not holding Clouston responsible but I think we can do better. He's not doing himself any favors telling the media it's bad goaltending and a few scapegoats like Kovalev and Fisher who were holding us back.

Michallica wrote:

Big Ev wrote:
Clouston has been in love with Shannon for years now, I think we all know that. It was a lighthearted joke, lighten up a bit.

As for you saying CC gets no credit, actually, people have been giving way too much credit to him for last year's team.

Fine I'll lighten up. care to enlighten as to who else he should have thrown into the shootout? he had all the right guys there...does clouston get any sort of credit for finally putting karlsson out against lundqvist? Again, i know he's nor perfect, and there are naysayers out there all the time, but lets not pretend that there's nothing clouston can do right

Michallica wrote:

Hoags wrote:

Michallica wrote:team's winning.....'well that's cuz of anderson'. team's losing....'Cussing clouston can't do jack, makes terrible decisions all the time'

The team went from 5th in the East to a lottery team in the span of a year. You can't have a massive collapse like that without at least considering holding the coaching staff partially accountable. The team looked bad right out of training camp and never improved. I'm not holding Clouston responsible but I think we can do better. He's not doing himself any favors telling the media it's bad goaltending and a few scapegoats like Kovalev and Fisher who were holding us back.

Yeah definitely not. He definitely has to shoulder some responsibility for that and he has come out and said that he does. He claims it to be a learning experience, and yeah he may just be saying that but he never really threw any of his players under the bus while they were with him. He seems to have done it to Eliott (which was a shocker), but by the same token that a 5th place team went to rock bottom, how about when he took a rock bottom team to 5th place?

queue the 'well that was cuz of the 11 game win streak, not clouston' there's literally nothing this guy can do right in ottawa

Big Ev wrote:

Michallica wrote:

Big Ev wrote:
Clouston has been in love with Shannon for years now, I think we all know that. It was a lighthearted joke, lighten up a bit.

As for you saying CC gets no credit, actually, people have been giving way too much credit to him for last year's team.

Fine I'll lighten up. care to enlighten as to who else he should have thrown into the shootout? he had all the right guys there...does clouston get any sort of credit for finally putting karlsson out against lundqvist? Again, i know he's nor perfect, and there are naysayers out there all the time, but lets not pretend that there's nothing clouston can do right

I'm not the one who said Shannon shouldn't be in the shootout lol. I was just joking that he's on his nuts.

Yes he does get credit for that (bolded part) actually, that was a great decision to put in Karlsson. I would have tried Svatos since he might have been confident after scoring 2 goals. Erik Condra maybe as well, he's been doing well.

Big Ev wrote:
The team wasn't in rock bottom when he took over, they just weren't a playoff team. THIS is rock bottom.

And yes that 13 game streak is the reason we made the playoffs but he was obviously coaching well and getting amazing goaltending from Elliott.

Michallica wrote:
? seriously? Shannon has been one of our best players and has shown nice hands (see Tampa Bay shorthanded goal). Why is it that he picks one of our better performing players and suddenly clouston is in love with shannon? Diddle I know ppl can't wait for clouston to be gone, but it gets ridiculous when people look for everything and anything to attack the guy with.

Get no credit when the team actually does something right, and take all the blame when nothing goes their way....its a bogus 'rule' that unfortunately brainwashes too many fans.