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121Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:24 pm

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It'd be nice if the paperwork indicated that Locke was replacing Spezza. Would make sense to me to try to replace our top center with our best most productive center prospect.

122Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 10:37 pm

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dawg's wife wrote:
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Michallica wrote:I like it better that way. At least he's not thrust into a pressurizing position and can ease himself in...and with the way clouston juggles the lines, I'm sure lock will play himself onto the top line. Best case scenario.

Worst case is he's on the top line, doe ant produce, then is replaced immediately and never gets a sniff at the top line

Locke is a perimeter player and he risks getting lost due to his lack of speed and size if not on the best line possible.

There is no half-way with Locke; he either produces or he doesn't. That is what he is paid to do; he is not a role player.

Are talking about Locke or Kovalev........

I know everyone is saying his size and foot speed are an issue, but some people can just plain score. Heatley used to be one of those, Tim Kerr was another, hell Cicarelli was one who was small and he wasn't overly fast. Mind you he played right in front and took a pounding.

Still Montreal only gave him 1 game (5 min of ice time) to prove himself, and the Rangers I believe gave him 3 (again around 5 min of ice time). Hardly a fair shot, considering his lowest point total in the AHL was his rookie year at 49 (??) and since then he has had at least 55 a year.

If you're going to give him a shot, you need to give him a decent amount of minutes playing a role similar to what he does in the AHL...what's the down side...Regin doesn't get 15 min a game?

Exactly. That is why I was recommending him play with Alredsson and Foligno. Locke needs a real opportunity for once.

I like him, he produces; but he needs linemates to compensate for his size and speed.

123Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:01 pm

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CockRoche wrote:
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Hoags wrote:Bravo Murray.

Let's ruin our top goalie prospect before his career even starts.

I understand the sentiment, but I'm still not 100% in agreement. I want a goalie that *won't* get down because he loses. I want him to just go out there and battle, and realize that even if not all battles are won you still have to keep battling. I want someone who can drive himself to excel with out needing someone to tell him *why* he needs to get pumped up.

Like SpezD, I think Lehner is strong enough between-the-ears to survive a trial by fire. And if he's not, then I don't think he's the future of this franchise anyway.

Yes, I know I'm going to get an earful from Roche when his self-imposed Lehner-free-exile is over.

I just like the way you stick to your guns; doesn't matter that I think you have the wrong ammunition.

You are almost asking for your gun to jam and backfire in your face.

Go ahead, you just made my day Smile

124Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:16 pm

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CockRoche wrote:I like him, he produces; but he needs linemates to compensate for his size and speed.

Small centers can thrive with big, strong, moderately skilled wingers, IMO. This is why I advocate young Simmonds coming to Ottawa to play with Regin too.

125Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:19 pm

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wprager wrote:
CockRoche wrote:
wprager wrote:
Hoags wrote:Bravo Murray.

Let's ruin our top goalie prospect before his career even starts.

I understand the sentiment, but I'm still not 100% in agreement. I want a goalie that *won't* get down because he loses. I want him to just go out there and battle, and realize that even if not all battles are won you still have to keep battling. I want someone who can drive himself to excel with out needing someone to tell him *why* he needs to get pumped up.

Like SpezD, I think Lehner is strong enough between-the-ears to survive a trial by fire. And if he's not, then I don't think he's the future of this franchise anyway.

Yes, I know I'm going to get an earful from Roche when his self-imposed Lehner-free-exile is over.

I just like the way you stick to your guns; doesn't matter that I think you have the wrong ammunition.

You are almost asking for your gun to jam and backfire in your face.

Go ahead, you just made my day Smile

Haha. Was that a pseudo Clint Eastwood reference?

126Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:25 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
CockRoche wrote:I like him, he produces; but he needs linemates to compensate for his size and speed.

Small centers can thrive with big, strong, moderately skilled wingers, IMO. This is why I advocate young Simmonds coming to Ottawa to play with Regin too.

I could wish for many of my favorite players to come to Ottawa, but what is the point?

What about Parise, Kesler, Brown, Betts, Neal, Oshie, Marchand, Tootoo and Callahan while we are at it?

127Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:30 pm

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Locke should at least get PP1 with Alfie and...whoever plays LW on the PP - Michalek I guess?

128Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:31 pm

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CockRoche wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
CockRoche wrote:I like him, he produces; but he needs linemates to compensate for his size and speed.

Small centers can thrive with big, strong, moderately skilled wingers, IMO. This is why I advocate young Simmonds coming to Ottawa to play with Regin too.

I could wish for many of my favorite players to come to Ottawa, but what is the point?

What about Parise, Kesler, Brown, Betts, Neal, Oshie, Marchand, Tootoo and Callahan while we are at it?

All in favour?

Carried.

Laugh1

129Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:49 pm

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SpezDispenser wrote:Locke should at least get PP1 with Alfie and...whoever plays LW on the PP - Michalek I guess?

Facepalm

130Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Wed Jan 12, 2011 11:50 pm

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
CockRoche wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
CockRoche wrote:I like him, he produces; but he needs linemates to compensate for his size and speed.

Small centers can thrive with big, strong, moderately skilled wingers, IMO. This is why I advocate young Simmonds coming to Ottawa to play with Regin too.

I could wish for many of my favorite players to come to Ottawa, but what is the point?

What about Parise, Kesler, Brown, Betts, Neal, Oshie, Marchand, Tootoo and Callahan while we are at it?

All in favour?

Carried.

Laugh1

Stanley Cup Champions.

131Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:14 am

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CockRoche wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
CockRoche wrote:I like him, he produces; but he needs linemates to compensate for his size and speed.

Small centers can thrive with big, strong, moderately skilled wingers, IMO. This is why I advocate young Simmonds coming to Ottawa to play with Regin too.

I could wish for many of my favorite players to come to Ottawa, but what is the point?

What about Parise, Kesler, Brown, Betts, Neal, Oshie, Marchand, Tootoo and Callahan while we are at it?

But seriously, I would be happy with just Simmonds, Parise, Betts and Oshie with the salary space Ottawa has next season. Haha.

132Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:20 am

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CockRoche wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Locke should at least get PP1 with Alfie and...whoever plays LW on the PP - Michalek I guess?

Facepalm

You don't want to see scoring sensation Milan Michalek on the first unit? Shame on you.

133Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:26 am

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SDH89 wrote:
CockRoche wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Locke should at least get PP1 with Alfie and...whoever plays LW on the PP - Michalek I guess?

Facepalm

You don't want to see scoring sensation Milan Michalek on the first unit? Shame on you.

Just my personal preference. I don't really want him on Ottawa either; but it is what it is.

He is in the same boat as Leclaire; and this may not make sense to some, but he is just as injury prone as Leclaire. The only difference is Leclaire is soft as a marshmallow and won't play through the slightest discomfort; Michalek on the other hand, will play through a torn ACL.

134Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Thu Jan 13, 2011 12:34 am

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I keep hearing it takes a year to recover from a torn ACL. A bit soon to write Michalek off.

135Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:22 am

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CockRoche wrote:
SDH89 wrote:
CockRoche wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:Locke should at least get PP1 with Alfie and...whoever plays LW on the PP - Michalek I guess?

Facepalm

You don't want to see scoring sensation Milan Michalek on the first unit? Shame on you.

Just my personal preference. I don't really want him on Ottawa either; but it is what it is.

He is in the same boat as Leclaire; and this may not make sense to some, but he is just as injury prone as Leclaire. The only difference is Leclaire is soft as a marshmallow and won't play through the slightest discomfort; Michalek on the other hand, will play through a torn ACL.

Laugh1 I was just messing with you, can't stand the guy.

136Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Thu Jan 13, 2011 1:23 am

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Hoags wrote:I keep hearing it takes a year to recover from a torn ACL. A bit soon to write Michalek off.


Yeah, but he's had 3 or 4 torn ACL's now, how many times can somebody come back from that? He just completes the Sens mantra of paying guys more than 4 million for no offensive output.

137Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Thu Jan 13, 2011 6:07 am

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He only had 2 ACLs to start with. Are you saying he's torn one or both repaired ones?


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138Locke and Lehner called up - Page 9 Empty Re: Locke and Lehner called up Thu Jan 13, 2011 7:15 am

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Hoags wrote:I keep hearing it takes a year to recover from a torn ACL. A bit soon to write Michalek off.


Not in my books. He was done before the trade to Ottawa; let's just say that deal was a head-scratcher at the time.

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