POLL: Zbynek Michalek or Anton Volchenkov

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:voted for Michalek since it seems A-Train is 98% going elsewhere as per Sens Chirp, really would like to have Volchie back, but doesn't seem likely, guess they convinced at the olympics to go elsewhere, referring to Semin and Ovie.

Washington has to sign some pretty big tickets in the off-season. Backstrom will be huge money. Theoretically, Backstrom and Volchenkov alone would total 11 million bucks. Maybe more.

maybe they send us Theodore back in a trade? that would give them cap room, and ottawa fans all across the world would collectively, well, won't put that, not appropriate lol

No. But they could send Tom Poti and Fleishmann in a deal

I think I could be okay with this, sounds like a decent hockey deal.

How much will Backstrom get? This was the first time I was actually disappointed in him. 7 million X 10 years? 8 million on a shorter term? Maybe similar to Toews (although Backstrom is better), so 6 million long term.

SpezDispenser wrote:How much will Backstrom get? This was the first time I was actually disappointed in him. 7 million X 10 years? 8 million on a shorter term? Maybe similar to Toews (although Backstrom is better), so 6 million long term.

At least 6. The consensus seems to be that he might even be a better all-around hockey player than Ovechkin... Semin makes 6 so it seems to be the starting point to me.

111519 wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:

111519 wrote:I guess the question is would you get rid of spezza to keep cullen, sutton, and volchenkov. NO.

Would i trade spezza to keep cullen, sutton, and get a pick and a prospect (and cap space) PROBABLY

No for me. The thought of the hole created by Spezza's leaving is too much for this team to overcome and be successful. A lot of extra wear and tear on Alfie too.

You dont think we could use cullen as the number one centre until we TRY to replace spezza with regin or prospect or UFA we could afford with the cap space? remember spezza is another 5 years at 7 million. And as sad as it is, this team has to start moving forward without Alfie, if we sign cullen he will probably be a senator after Alfie retires, leaving a forward core of fisher, regin, michalek, foligno, cullen, and smith-with spezza gone we could add to that a prospect and a young UFA (brooks laich)

Fisher = 2nd/3rd line player. Cullen = 2nd line player. Michalek + Foligno = wildly inconsistent offensively. Smith = 4th-liner. Regin + Laich = good but supporting scorers.

That would be hands-down the worst forward corps in the league. Hands-down.

111519 wrote:has this ever been done (since kovalev is gone next year)

4 year

2mil, 5 mil, 3mil, 2mil, =3mil average

is it allowed

I don't know about structuring contracts but I don't see why anyone would do that. All that really matters to the team is the cap-hit, which is the total salary divided by the number of years of the contract. So, he would not count for $2 million one season and $5 million the next; it'd be $3 million every season against the cap.

Also, the player would want his money up front, which is why so many contracts are front-loaded. So, I don't ever see something like this happening.

SeawaySensFan wrote:At least 6. The consensus seems to be that he might even be a better all-around hockey player than Ovechkin... Semin makes 6 so it seems to be the starting point to me.

In that case, does the Backstrom camp even accept 7 X 10? Probably not. Backstrom is an incredible player, the negotiations will be tough.

I dont think Murray is going to be replacing A Train with another shut em down D man... if he wanted to pay big bucks for one, he would have given it to A Train or am I just crazy? Thinking about things I dont think there is anyway in hell Murray goes out and pays anything over 2.5-3 mil for a strictly defensive D man. There are 2 guys coming up in Cowen and Gryba who Murray said will have every chance of making that team.

Murray has stated he wants a PMD and there is no doubt that Campbell is available, a guy Murray went after but didnt want to commit the years to. 2 years off that contract now and 14 million dollars, the contract is a little easier to swallow.

Prags brought up a good stat earlier, Karlsson 6 points in the playoffs, the rest of the D, 5... that has to change. In The East like The Pens have showed a mobile D can and will get the job done. With Gonchar leaving that team their PP will suffer in a big way, getting Campbell no matter his contract will give The Sens the edge in The East because really, with Campbell and Karlsson is there a better puck moving tandom? Doubtful. Add in Campoli and you are pretty much set.

Or you can give Hamuis the 5 year 20 million we wanted to give Volchenkov.
I've focused on him against Chicago, he was a beast.

The problem with Campbell is, I don't want his cap there when Karlsson and the upcoming prospects will have a raise, which is essentially what is happening in this offseason in Chicago.

N4L wrote:I dont think Murray is going to be replacing A Train with another shut em down D man... if he wanted to pay big bucks for one, he would have given it to A Train or am I just crazy? Thinking about things I dont think there is anyway in hell Murray goes out and pays anything over 2.5-3 mil for a strictly defensive D man. There are 2 guys coming up in Cowen and Gryba who Murray said will have every chance of making that team.

Murray has stated he wants a PMD and there is no doubt that Campbell is available, a guy Murray went after but didnt want to commit the years to. 2 years off that contract now and 14 million dollars, the contract is a little easier to swallow.

Prags brought up a good stat earlier, Karlsson 6 points in the playoffs, the rest of the D, 5... that has to change. In The East like The Pens have showed a mobile D can and will get the job done. With Gonchar leaving that team their PP will suffer in a big way, getting Campbell no matter his contract will give The Sens the edge in The East because really, with Campbell and Karlsson is there a better puck moving tandom? Doubtful. Add in Campoli and you are pretty much set.

I've been thinking about this since he said that on Team 1200 about the puck moving D-man and that the most successful teams have more than one top notch puck-mover. Michalek is more of a puck mover than A-Train though, but I think we might be looking for someone like Campbell. Gonchar is out there, make a big move for him. He's awesome.

marakh wrote:Or you can give Hamuis the 5 year 20 million we wanted to give Volchenkov.
I've focused on him against Chicago, he was a beast.

The problem with Campbell is, I don't want his cap there when Karlsson and the upcoming prospects will have a raise, which is essentially what is happening in this offseason in Chicago.

Hamius is defently an option there, no doubt and he would come at basically no cost. Campbell wouldnt come at much of a cost either though.

That said, he doesnt move the puck like Campbell, he's on of the best in the world. He would bring another dimension to The Sens that IMO, they have never had.

Either guy would fit right in but there will be a bidding war on Hamius for sure.

SpezDispenser wrote:

N4L wrote:I dont think Murray is going to be replacing A Train with another shut em down D man... if he wanted to pay big bucks for one, he would have given it to A Train or am I just crazy? Thinking about things I dont think there is anyway in hell Murray goes out and pays anything over 2.5-3 mil for a strictly defensive D man. There are 2 guys coming up in Cowen and Gryba who Murray said will have every chance of making that team.

Murray has stated he wants a PMD and there is no doubt that Campbell is available, a guy Murray went after but didnt want to commit the years to. 2 years off that contract now and 14 million dollars, the contract is a little easier to swallow.

Prags brought up a good stat earlier, Karlsson 6 points in the playoffs, the rest of the D, 5... that has to change. In The East like The Pens have showed a mobile D can and will get the job done. With Gonchar leaving that team their PP will suffer in a big way, getting Campbell no matter his contract will give The Sens the edge in The East because really, with Campbell and Karlsson is there a better puck moving tandom? Doubtful. Add in Campoli and you are pretty much set.

I've been thinking about this since he said that on Team 1200 about the puck moving D-man and that the most successful teams have more than one top notch puck-mover. Michalek is more of a puck mover than A-Train though, but I think we might be looking for someone like Campbell. Gonchar is out there, make a big move for him. He's awesome.

Gonchar is slowing down and truth be told, I think Campbell is the better player right now, at this point in time. 3 years ago, ya, Gonchar all the way but I think Campbell helps this team a lot more then any UFA available.

If Hamhuis was going to accept 4M I think he would have already signed in Nashville. With the typical overpayment July 1st, he will probably wind up with 5M minimum.

RobbyJ wrote:If Hamhuis was going to accept 4M I think he would have already signed in Nashville. With the typical overpayment July 1st, he will probably wind up with 5M minimum.

Hamius will be getting 5 mil plus for sure and as good as he is, not exactly what Ottawa needs back there. Very complete D man but a lot like Chris Phillips. Good at everything, not great or bad at anything.

I like the thought of Gonchar to be honest. Obviously the terms of the new contract would be a big factor, but other than Markov or Lidstrom I don't see anyone who would be a better mentor for Karlsson.

Meh, dont need to be a D to help the kid along. Alfi is the right guy IMO, Karlsson is smart enough to learn the game on his own, it's the off ice stuff that he needs someone there for him.

Anyways, I wouldnt be upset if Gonchar came over but Campbell might be the better player at this point and will be in the near future, injuries and age ar starting to catch up to Gonchar IMO.

N4L wrote:Meh, dont need to be a D to help the kid along. Alfi is the right guy IMO, Karlsson is smart enough to learn the game on his own, it's the off ice stuff that he needs someone there for him.

Anyways, I wouldnt be upset if Gonchar came over but Campbell might be the better player at this point and will be in the near future, injuries and age ar starting to catch up to Gonchar IMO.

Campbell would be ideal. But if the organization thinks Campoli and Wiercioch are ready to go in a couple years then maybe Gonchar is a better stop-gap option.

I'm starting to like the idea of having a puckmover on our top pairing with Phillips if we can't get Volchy under contract. Kind of even out our pairings in terms of having a puckmover and a shutdown guy on each pairing.

Not only that, Campbell is faaaaaaaast, like insanely fast. Having a guy that can get up and down the ice like that is something Ottawa doesnt have. What do you think Spezza is going to be able to do with a 4th forward in the offensive zone and on the rush? Spezza's best years were when Redden, Ppresing, and Corvo were jumping up in the play. You add Campbell and Spezza gets close to 100 points IMO if Regin continues to play like he has.

The way Campbell plays he fits right into Ottawa's system and gives them a ton of options on the backend.

Basically our very own Mike Green, but he will be playing beside Phillips instead of Jeff Shultz so we don't have to be as worried.

Campbell is waaaay better in his own zone then Green too. Im not saying this guy is going to be shutting down Crosby, but he wont be getting burned by Moore.

The nice thing about Campbell's game is it is all based on speed, if he get caught up ice, he can get back. If he wants to join the rush, no back checker will be able to cover him. He's been good in Chicago but they just cant keep that contract.

I love the thought of Campbell, a lot.