Guess who the Sens draft..

For those wanting to know how the draft order is decided.

The remaining order is determined by the Stanley Cup playoff results
Whichever team wins the Stanley Cup is awarded the 30th and last pick,
while the runner-up is given the 29th pick. The teams eliminated in the
conference finals are awarded the 28th and 27th picks, with the 28th
pick going to the team with the better regular season record. Remaining
division winners, then wildcard teams are ranked next, filling in the
26th through 15th picks. In both cases, better records result in later
picks

If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

N4L wrote:There is no Crosby type playing in this draft, not even close. Hall will be a good player on day but nothing like Crosby, not even a discussion that should be had.

Crosby is a once in a decade or more type pick. Maybe even longer than that.

I can't believe Malkin and Ovechkin were in the same draft, although there was not as much hype about Malkin.

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

Devo wrote:

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

They can't pick 15th, that is impossible in the 2010 draft.
EDIT - impossible taking into account just regular season points, not trades that may happen. I deal with technicalites everyday of my life, just wanted to clear that up.
15th is not an option unless a trade happens.

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

They can't pick 15th, that is impossible in the 2010 draft.

Really...hmmm...well the first 14 picks are decided by those teams who do not make the playoffs. The next 16 are decided by the order in which teams are booted from the playoffs. For each round the seeding happens based on regular season numbers.

Of the teams that made the playoffs, only Montreal, Boston and Philly finished lower than Ottawa.

Boston and Philly have won and will move on. As a result the only team that can take the 15th spot from Ottawa is Montreal.

Let's hear your logic, and who get's the 15th spot.

Devo wrote:

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

They can't pick 15th, that is impossible in the 2010 draft.

Really...hmmm...well the first 14 picks are decided by those teams who do not make the playoffs. The next 16 are decided by the order in which teams are booted from the playoffs. For each round the seeding happens based on regular season numbers.

Of the teams that made the playoffs, only Montreal, Boston and Philly finished lower than Ottawa.

Boston and Philly have won and will move on. As a result the only team that can take the 15th spot from Ottawa is Montreal.

Let's hear your logic, and who get's the 15th spot.

Um...the Western Conference?

cain69 wrote:Edmonton will not move the 1st, unless you are will to hand over a Crosby type player

You're right, Edmonton will not move the 1st. But, don't get crazy. There's a draft every year and someone gets taken 1st in the draft. Hell, Spezza was a 2nd over-all pick himself.

Crosby will finish his career as one of the upper echelon of the greatest players of all-time. Can't stand the guy sometimes, but it's pretty ridiculous to think that when Karlsson turns 20 in May, Sid will only be 22. This is a team captain with a Cup, 2 Finals Appearances, an Olympic Gold, an Art Ross, a Lester B. Pearson, a Hart and a Rocket Richard trophy, 506 regular season points in 371 games and 77 playoff points in 55 career games. It wouldn't surprise me to see him surpass Alfie's all-time totals in the playoffs this post-season.

I've been on the Hall bandwagon for a long time, and he might equal Crosby in terms of physical attributes (though I doubt he'll ever have the lower-body strength in the corners), but he does not think the game on remotely the same level.

DirtyDave wrote:Did a bit of research.. I hope it's Skinner .. but what are the chances he's still around. Maybe BM moves down a few notches to increase his chances.. but I think he's going top 10.. anyone know why he's rated mid 1st instead of early 1st round?

He's 5'10" and his skating is not spectacular. Slow and small is not a combination that many scouts like, especially if they think it'll hamper him in getting to scoring areas (though he's got a shot like Samuelsson so I don't think it'll be a huge problem). It's the same reason Parise fell to 17 in 2003, but post-draft his skating took an unbelievable turn for the better and now he's arguably the best player in the draft.

If Skinner can pull a Parise it'll be a massive steal for the team that lands him. If not, it could limit his effectiveness.

I'm a little concerned that he's essentially Andre Petersson with a little less flash and more grit, though. Shouldn't we be trying to diversify our forward portfolio?

asq2 wrote:

Devo wrote:

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

They can't pick 15th, that is impossible in the 2010 draft.

Really...hmmm...well the first 14 picks are decided by those teams who do not make the playoffs. The next 16 are decided by the order in which teams are booted from the playoffs. For each round the seeding happens based on regular season numbers.

Of the teams that made the playoffs, only Montreal, Boston and Philly finished lower than Ottawa.

Boston and Philly have won and will move on. As a result the only team that can take the 15th spot from Ottawa is Montreal.

Let's hear your logic, and who get's the 15th spot.

Um...the Western Conference?

All the western teams in the playoffs have more regular season points than Ottawa. Even #8 seed

Devo wrote:

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

They can't pick 15th, that is impossible in the 2010 draft.

Really...hmmm...well the first 14 picks are decided by those teams who do not make the playoffs. The next 16 are decided by the order in which teams are booted from the playoffs. For each round the seeding happens based on regular season numbers.

Of the teams that made the playoffs, only Montreal, Boston and Philly finished lower than Ottawa.

Boston and Philly have won and will move on. As a result the only team that can take the 15th spot from Ottawa is Montreal.

Let's hear your logic, and who get's the 15th spot.

It's actually very simple. If you finish 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th in the regular season, it doesn't matter how you do in the playoffs, you draft position goes by your regular season point total. The only way your draft ranking changes from your regular sseason point total is if you make it to the Conference finals or better. In saying that, 3 teams in these playoffs finished lower than Ottawa, if Montreal wins their series, only 2 of those 3 teams can advance to the Conference finals obviously, leaving the loser of the Boston/Philadelphia series in that 15th draft spot. The worst Ottawa can draft if Montreal wins against Washington is 17th, the best 16th. If Washington wins though, we may draft 18th.

asq2 wrote:

Devo wrote:

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

They can't pick 15th, that is impossible in the 2010 draft.

Really...hmmm...well the first 14 picks are decided by those teams who do not make the playoffs. The next 16 are decided by the order in which teams are booted from the playoffs. For each round the seeding happens based on regular season numbers.

Of the teams that made the playoffs, only Montreal, Boston and Philly finished lower than Ottawa.

Boston and Philly have won and will move on. As a result the only team that can take the 15th spot from Ottawa is Montreal.

Let's hear your logic, and who get's the 15th spot.

Um...the Western Conference?

Nope.

Phoenix30 wrote:

asq2 wrote:

Devo wrote:

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

They can't pick 15th, that is impossible in the 2010 draft.

Really...hmmm...well the first 14 picks are decided by those teams who do not make the playoffs. The next 16 are decided by the order in which teams are booted from the playoffs. For each round the seeding happens based on regular season numbers.

Of the teams that made the playoffs, only Montreal, Boston and Philly finished lower than Ottawa.

Boston and Philly have won and will move on. As a result the only team that can take the 15th spot from Ottawa is Montreal.

Let's hear your logic, and who get's the 15th spot.

Um...the Western Conference?

All the teams in the playoffs have more regular season points than Ottawa. Even #8 seed

Yep.

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

They can't pick 15th, that is impossible in the 2010 draft.

Really...hmmm...well the first 14 picks are decided by those teams who do not make the playoffs. The next 16 are decided by the order in which teams are booted from the playoffs. For each round the seeding happens based on regular season numbers.

Of the teams that made the playoffs, only Montreal, Boston and Philly finished lower than Ottawa.

Boston and Philly have won and will move on. As a result the only team that can take the 15th spot from Ottawa is Montreal.

Let's hear your logic, and who get's the 15th spot.

It's actually very simple. If you finish 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th in the regular season, it doesn't matter how you do in the playoffs, you draft position goes by your regular season point total. The only way your draft ranking changes from your regular sseason point total is if you make it to the Conference finals or better. In saying that, 3 teams in these playoffs finished lower than Ottawa, if Montreal wins their series, only 2 of those 3 teams can advance to the Conference finals obviously, leaving the loser of the Boston/Philadelphia series in that 15th draft spot. The worst Ottawa can draft if Montreal wins against Washington is 17th, the best 16th. If Washington wins though, we may draft 18th.

WRONG...

This changed a couple of years ago. Your draft position is related to where you exit in the playoffs, and for all the teams that leave in that round it's based on regular season point totals. Last year Boston and San Jose finished 1st and 2nd respectively. They both lost in the 2nd round, and as a result they (or whoever they traded their pick to) went 25th and 26th. Carolina who finished with the 11th best record picked in the 27th slot.

Do some research before spouting off.

What did you not understand? Carolina made it to the conference finals, so they moved up. There is no possible way Ottawa will draft 15th unless a trade is made, let me just say that. There is nothing I have said that is WRONG as you put it. I don't have to research something I already know as fact.

Devo wrote:

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

Straight Shooter wrote:

Devo wrote:

N4L wrote:If Montreal wins their series, Ottawa moves up, it's garenteed.

It's official...

Ottawa will pick either 15th or 16th depending on whether Montreal wins.

They can't pick 15th, that is impossible in the 2010 draft.

Really...hmmm...well the first 14 picks are decided by those teams who do not make the playoffs. The next 16 are decided by the order in which teams are booted from the playoffs. For each round the seeding happens based on regular season numbers.

Of the teams that made the playoffs, only Montreal, Boston and Philly finished lower than Ottawa.

Boston and Philly have won and will move on. As a result the only team that can take the 15th spot from Ottawa is Montreal.

Let's hear your logic, and who get's the 15th spot.

It's actually very simple. If you finish 4th, 5th, 6th, 7th or 8th in the regular season, it doesn't matter how you do in the playoffs, you draft position goes by your regular season point total. The only way your draft ranking changes from your regular sseason point total is if you make it to the Conference finals or better. In saying that, 3 teams in these playoffs finished lower than Ottawa, if Montreal wins their series, only 2 of those 3 teams can advance to the Conference finals obviously, leaving the loser of the Boston/Philadelphia series in that 15th draft spot. The worst Ottawa can draft if Montreal wins against Washington is 17th, the best 16th. If Washington wins though, we may draft 18th.

WRONG...

This changed a couple of years ago. Your draft position is related to where you exit in the playoffs, and for all the teams that leave in that round it's based on regular season point totals. Last year Boston and San Jose finished 1st and 2nd respectively. They both lost in the 2nd round, and as a result they (or whoever they traded their pick to) went 25th and 26th. Carolina who finished with the 11th best record picked in the 27th slot.

Do some research before spouting off.

Straight Shooter wrote:What did you not understand? Carolina made it to the conference finals, so they moved up. There is no possible way Ottawa will draft 15th unless a trade is made, let me just say that. There is nothing I have said that is WRONG as you put it. I don't have to research something I already know as fact.

So who will draft ahead of Ottawa?

Boston, nope they moved up
Philly, nope they moved up
Colorado, nope they finished with more points than Ottawa
Nashville, nope they finished with more points than Ottawa

Straight from the NHL's website.

The remaining order is determined by the Stanley Cup playoff results.] Whichever team wins the Stanley Cup is awarded the 30th and last pick, while the runner-up is given the 29th pick. The teams eliminated in the conference finals are awarded the 28th and 27th picks, with the 28th pick going to the team with the better regular season record. Remaining division winners, then wildcard teams are ranked next, filling in the 26th through 15th picks. In both cases, better records result in later picks.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POSITION. IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RECORD..ergo.

OTTAWA GETS the 15TH OR 16TH PICK

I won't predict who they will draft. But they should draft the best available non-Russian winger. Preferably a LW or an El Nino, who is ranked 12th among North American skaters. Could happen.

Devo wrote:

Straight Shooter wrote:What did you not understand? Carolina made it to the conference finals, so they moved up. There is no possible way Ottawa will draft 15th unless a trade is made, let me just say that. There is nothing I have said that is WRONG as you put it. I don't have to research something I already know as fact.

So who will draft ahead of Ottawa?

Boston, nope they moved up
Philly, nope they moved up
Colorado, nope they finished with more points than Ottawa
Nashville, nope they finished with more points than Ottawa

Straight from the NHL's website.

The remaining order is determined by the Stanley Cup playoff results.] Whichever team wins the Stanley Cup is awarded the 30th and last pick, while the runner-up is given the 29th pick. The teams eliminated in the conference finals are awarded the 28th and 27th picks, with the 28th pick going to the team with the better regular season record. Remaining division winners, then wildcard teams are ranked next, filling in the 26th through 15th picks. In both cases, better records result in later picks.

IT HAS NOTHING TO DO WITH POSITION. IT HAS EVERYTHING TO DO WITH RECORD..ergo.

OTTAWA GETS the 15TH OR 16TH PICK

You have to make the conferance final to move down in the draft. IE Boston would still draft right behind Ottawa if they lost in the 2nd round but would move up to the 26-30 spot if they made it to the conferance final.

Getting to the 2nd round does not change your draft position.

I might remove that last comment because you're wrong on this one.