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GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Atlanta Thrashers - 7:00pm ET - Tue. Jan. 12th, 2010

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PTFlea


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111519 wrote:
This is exactly the problem, people say "don't trade our future prospects", and I agree to some point BUT, don't say future prospects (guys that will develop in the next 3-5 years) and then act as if alfie who is 36, phillips who is 31, will be around and productive at that time. You can't have it both ways-you go for it now with alfie, kovalev, neil, rutuu, kuba, and phillips, (all over 30) or you trade for youth, to develop with your emerging prospects-karlsson, cowen, spezza, michalek, fisher, foligno, shannon, volchenkov, brodeur, leclaire, etc.

Hockey is cyclical, and if you don't make changes, nothing changes....

When you look at those options and names, I know what I would do. I don't want to trade the future I want to build it.

How about something like

To Calgary

phillips
cheechoo
3rd round pick

To Ottawa
Phaneuf

Can you imagine the excitement, can you imagine our defence in three years

The problem is it's really hard to make a trade of that magnitude. Number one, Cheechoo is a negative value - and I mean that - if you add him into a package, you have to add a 2nd rounder for someone to accept him. Phillips has a NTC and is a shutdown guy, so he's really redundant with Regher there. And the 3rd is insulting considering Phaneuf is a young, talented D-man.

For Phaneuf it's Spezza or Michalek straight up. MAYBE a Foligno, Regin, 1st package would do it, but that's also debatable.

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I still say it would be Spezza and Volchenkov for Phaneuf and Jokinen.

C for C, D for D, expiring contract for expiring contract.

PTFlea


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SeawaySensFan wrote:I still say it would be Spezza and Volchenkov for Phaneuf and Jokinen.

C for C, D for D, expiring contract for expiring contract.

Would you do that deal though?

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SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:I still say it would be Spezza and Volchenkov for Phaneuf and Jokinen.

C for C, D for D, expiring contract for expiring contract.

Would you do that deal though?

Is Phaneuf a #1 D? Then you do it. If not, nevermind.

PTFlea

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:I still say it would be Spezza and Volchenkov for Phaneuf and Jokinen.

C for C, D for D, expiring contract for expiring contract.

Would you do that deal though?

Is Phaneuf a #1 D? Then you do it. If not, nevermind.

If he gets back to form he is for sure, if not...well, I guess Calgary would be in the same boat with Spezza.

SeawaySensFan

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No need to worry about it. Nothing will happen.

PTFlea

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SeawaySensFan wrote:No need to worry about it. Nothing will happen.

Doubtful.

shabbs

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"If he gets back to form..." Oh man, how many times have we said that...

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SeawaySensFan wrote:No need to worry about it. Nothing will happen.

Don't be so pessimistic. I could easily see Murray making a big play for Steve MacIntyre. GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Atlanta Thrashers - 7:00pm ET - Tue. Jan. 12th, 2010 - Page 39 557710

PTFlea

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shabbs wrote:"If he gets back to form..." Oh man, how many times have we said that...

Well the Flames are wondering what form even means for their 6.7 million dollar Bouwmeester. And they're wondering if Phaneuf can get back to the form he showed two years ago. And frankly, they're wondering why Robin Regher is a minus player when he's a supreme shutdown D-man.

They're lucky they're in a playoff spot right now, I'm not kidding at all.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
shabbs wrote:"If he gets back to form..." Oh man, how many times have we said that...

Well the Flames are wondering what form even means for their 6.7 million dollar Bouwmeester. And they're wondering if Phaneuf can get back to the form he showed two years ago. And frankly, they're wondering why Robin Regher is a minus player when he's a supreme shutdown D-man.

They're lucky they're in a playoff spot right now, I'm not kidding at all.

Only because they are in the West. They are a real good team alot of the time. In the East they'd be a lock for a top 3 team imo.

No matter, as per usual, they'll get bounced in the first round after an unfavourable matchup.

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Year after year, we hear that Calgary is a real good team but they never really prove it.

I expect a deal involving Spezza and Phaneuf to be finalized by Monday.

more to come...

The Montagoose


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SeawaySensFan wrote:Year after year, we hear that Calgary is a real good team but they never really prove it.

I expect a deal involving Spezza and Phaneuf to be finalized by Monday.

more to come...

Are you talking out your backside or do you have something concrete.

SeawaySensFan

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The Montagoose wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:Year after year, we hear that Calgary is a real good team but they never really prove it.

I expect a deal involving Spezza and Phaneuf to be finalized by Monday.

more to come...

Are you talking out your backside or do you have something concrete.

Only time will tell.

sens4win

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as much as we want to believe there is going to be a trade
i don't see one happening until the dead line which we will already be in 12th spot

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sens4win wrote:as much as we want to believe there is going to be a trade
i don't see one happening until the dead line which we will already be in 12th spot

Well, if Murray is only planning the usual mid-season patchwork, I don't want a trade.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:Year after year, we hear that Calgary is a real good team but they never really prove it.

I expect a deal involving Spezza and Phaneuf to be finalized by Monday.

more to come...

Well, they went to the finals in 04, faced Detroit in 07, SJ in 08 (nearly beat them), were decimated by injuries in 09 and VS the powerhouse CHicago. Maybe this time they will face a team like Nashville in the 1st round.

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hemlock wrote:
sens4win wrote:as much as we want to believe there is going to be a trade
i don't see one happening until the dead line which we will already be in 12th spot

Well, if Murray is only planning the usual mid-season patchwork, I don't want a trade.

May be he sends Campoli for a 1st rounder? GAME DAY: Ottawa Senators @ Atlanta Thrashers - 7:00pm ET - Tue. Jan. 12th, 2010 - Page 39 159628

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