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241rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:45 am

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Kovalfie wrote:
MurderOnIce wrote:
Kovalfie wrote:There is cheap talent out there that could help. I would consider adding Shremp from the NYI to help with the powerplay/shootout. I'd even consider a signed Frolov at this point.

I think Cogliano is overrated but if we trade Campoli/Picard/Foligno one for one I'd be able to stomach it. Much rather giving up a little bit more to get Gagner.

Problems IMHO come from the back-end. Our #1-2 defencemen have no offensive upside while our #3 has been playing poorly and our #4 a rookie. It's time we get a true #1 defencemen. Campbell, Souray, Liles, Weber can all be had.

You must mean Yannick, Shea is going nowhere.

Shea is a UFA next year and Nashville won't pay him what he deserves. I can honestly see a Fish for Weber trade this summer or next year. That is if we add legit scoring threat(s)

Shea Weber is a Norris Trophy type defenseman. If they let him go they are dumber than we were with Chara.

242rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:49 am

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MurderOnIce wrote:
Kovalfie wrote:
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Kovalfie wrote:There is cheap talent out there that could help. I would consider adding Shremp from the NYI to help with the powerplay/shootout. I'd even consider a signed Frolov at this point.

I think Cogliano is overrated but if we trade Campoli/Picard/Foligno one for one I'd be able to stomach it. Much rather giving up a little bit more to get Gagner.

Problems IMHO come from the back-end. Our #1-2 defencemen have no offensive upside while our #3 has been playing poorly and our #4 a rookie. It's time we get a true #1 defencemen. Campbell, Souray, Liles, Weber can all be had.

You must mean Yannick, Shea is going nowhere.

Shea is a UFA next year and Nashville won't pay him what he deserves. I can honestly see a Fish for Weber trade this summer or next year. That is if we add legit scoring threat(s)

Shea Weber is a Norris Trophy type defenseman. If they let him go they are dumber than we were with Chara.

Nashville are cheap bastards. Weber is as good as gone sooner or later.

243rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 9:54 am

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Well you can be sure that if Shae Weber is available Murray will make a strong pitch for him. It won't be good enough and he'll explain that after when Shae is playing for another team but Murray will make his pitch don't worry.

244rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:42 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:Well you can be sure that if Shae Weber is available Murray will make a strong pitch for him. It won't be good enough and he'll explain that after when Shae is playing for another team but Murray will make his pitch don't worry.

Like he did Campbell, Cammalleri, etc?

At some point BM needs to make a big pitch for a franchise player. Once Alfie leaves we don't really have one (some may argue Spezza but I really don't think he will be anything without Alfie). I would kill for a sign-and-trade with Atlanta for Kovalchuk. He's top-5 skillwise in the NHL and could single-handedly turn this franchise around.

As for Weber, same thing. Make a move to help this franchise for the long-run...

245rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:43 am

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I would give half the team for Weber. Actually, I'd give anyone Nashville wanted. Anyone.

246rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:43 am

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Kovalfie wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Well you can be sure that if Shae Weber is available Murray will make a strong pitch for him. It won't be good enough and he'll explain that after when Shae is playing for another team but Murray will make his pitch don't worry.

Like he did Campbell, Cammalleri, etc?

At some point BM needs to make a big pitch for a franchise player. Once Alfie leaves we don't really have one (some may argue Spezza but I really don't think he will be anything without Alfie). I would kill for a sign-and-trade with Atlanta for Kovalchuk. He's top-5 skillwise in the NHL and could single-handedly turn this franchise around.

As for Weber, same thing. Make a move to help this franchise for the long-run...

The things I would do for Weber in a Sens uni can only be described as unholy.

247rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:44 am

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Kovalfie wrote:
Like he did Campbell, Cammalleri, etc?

At some point BM needs to make a big pitch for a franchise player. Once Alfie leaves we don't really have one (some may argue Spezza but I really don't think he will be anything without Alfie). I would kill for a sign-and-trade with Atlanta for Kovalchuk. He's top-5 skillwise in the NHL and could single-handedly turn this franchise around.

As for Weber, same thing. Make a move to help this franchise for the long-run...

Do you realize what the price would be for Weber though? Cowen, 1st round pick, Michalek. It would be pulverizing. Would I do it? Diddle yeah, but people should realize the intense cost.

248rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:50 am

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SpezDispenser wrote:
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Like he did Campbell, Cammalleri, etc?

At some point BM needs to make a big pitch for a franchise player. Once Alfie leaves we don't really have one (some may argue Spezza but I really don't think he will be anything without Alfie). I would kill for a sign-and-trade with Atlanta for Kovalchuk. He's top-5 skillwise in the NHL and could single-handedly turn this franchise around.

As for Weber, same thing. Make a move to help this franchise for the long-run...

Do you realize what the price would be for Weber though? Cowen, 1st round pick, Michalek. It would be pulverizing. Would I do it? Diddle yeah, but people should realize the intense cost.

This guy would be our franchise going forward. He's the perfect partner for Karlsson imo. Tough as nails, can help Karlsson defensively and is capable of quality PP work. Plus, with the two of them, other keys couldn't just key in on Karlsson as the shooter, they'd have to respect both guys.

Frig, I just noticed he's a righty. Oh well, pair him with Karlsson still, I don't care.

249rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 10:54 am

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hemlock wrote:This guy would be our franchise going forward. He's the perfect partner for Karlsson imo. Tough as nails, can help Karlsson defensively and is capable of quality PP work. Plus, with the two of them, other keys couldn't just key in on Karlsson as the shooter, they'd have to respect both guys.

Frig, I just noticed he's a righty. Oh well, pair him with Karlsson still, I don't care.

I"m not saying I wouldn't do it. Wink

250rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:11 am

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Kovalfie wrote:
Cap'n Clutch wrote:Well you can be sure that if Shae Weber is available Murray will make a strong pitch for him. It won't be good enough and he'll explain that after when Shae is playing for another team but Murray will make his pitch don't worry.

Like he did Campbell, Cammalleri, etc?

At some point BM needs to make a big pitch for a franchise player. Once Alfie leaves we don't really have one (some may argue Spezza but I really don't think he will be anything without Alfie). I would kill for a sign-and-trade with Atlanta for Kovalchuk. He's top-5 skillwise in the NHL and could single-handedly turn this franchise around.

As for Weber, same thing. Make a move to help this franchise for the long-run...

You did read my whole post right? I'm essentially saying exactly what you are saying.


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251rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:15 am

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I think we wait until the end of next season and FORCE a trade for one of the big 3. Cheechoo and Kovalev will free up 8M which can be used to terrify LA, NASH and ATL into dealing Doughty, Weber or Bogosian. I would sacrifice 4 1st rounder for any of these 3 guys.

252rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:19 am

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Who's saying any or all of those three will be available? RFA's are getting locked up well before they become RFA's. It's smart for these teams to get them signed early so there's no chance of an offer sheet coming in. No reason for Doughty to want to leave LA. Bogosian's going to be given a lot of money and opportunity in Atlanta (especially if Ilya's not there), and Weber's already re-signed there. If someone wanted out they'd hold out as long as they can.

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Would you do Fisher and a first round pick for Weber? Since Nashville has scouts at Senators games.

254rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:19 am

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RobbyJ wrote:I think we wait until the end of next season and FORCE a trade for one of the big 3. Cheechoo and Kovalev will free up 8M which can be used to terrify LA, NASH and ATL into dealing Doughty, Weber or Bogosian. I would sacrifice 4 1st rounder for any of these 3 guys.

Don't forget about Leclaire coming off as well. That's 12 million we're at now.

Goodness gracious, I would do incredibly wrong things to have any of these three in our lineup. First and foremost, Doughty, second - and very close - Weber and third - again, very close, Bogosian.

As I say, outside of Alfredsson, I would give you any players on this team to have one of those guys.

255rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:21 am

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Dash wrote:Who's saying any or all of those three will be available? RFA's are getting locked up well before they become RFA's. It's smart for these teams to get them signed early so there's no chance of an offer sheet coming in. No reason for Doughty to want to leave LA. Bogosian's going to be given a lot of money and opportunity in Atlanta (especially if Ilya's not there), and Weber's already re-signed there. If someone wanted out they'd hold out as long as they can.

Doughty will stay, he'll sign a 10 year, 70 million, somewhere around there. Bogosian might not sign before the summer, Weber I have a hard time imagining him re-signing there before the summer as well.

Of course, this is all fantasy.

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Sens4thecup wrote:Would you do Fisher and a first round pick for Weber? Since Nashville has scouts at Senators games.

You mean Fisher, one of Cowen/Karlsson and a 1st round pick?

Yes I would.

257rumours of the week - Page 17 Empty Re: rumours of the week Wed Jan 13, 2010 11:22 am

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Sens4thecup wrote:Would you do Fisher and a first round pick for Weber? Since Nashville has scouts at Senators games.

Easily but I think an even better deal would be Fisher, Foligno and Volchenkov for Weber and Dumont. rumours of the week - Page 17 235689 rumours of the week - Page 17 805406

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Sens4thecup wrote:Would you do Fisher and a first round pick for Weber? Since Nashville has scouts at Senators games.

Without a doubt. Nashville would never do it but absolutely I would.


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