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Now with a POLL! Is the Ron Wilson death watch on? (Possible player revolt?)

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When does Ron Wilson get fired - or does he?

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They will beat The Habs, Ill take that bet there, maybe even The Sabres. Dont see them winning a game on the road, although being away from Toronto at this point cant hurt.

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That Kessel signing is going to look like Dung if they finish with a lottery pick.

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shabbs wrote:
Kovalfie wrote:Looking at the Leaf's UFAs next year, it looks like Toronto will have plenty of cap room and can add two-three top tier forwards to their developing young core. If I were Burke I think I'd put all my eggs in one basket and try to lure Kovalchuk out of Atlanta. It's obvious the Thrashers are trying to keep Ilya there surrounding him with Russian 'comrades' much like the Caps did in Washington with Ovechkin, but something tells me a person as skilled as Kovalchuk will flourish more in the spotlight. Savard would be a good plan B as would someone like Marleau, but if Burke wants to make a difference he better sign the marquee UFA to save face.
They'll also need to sign/acquire a #1 goalie. Toskala and MacDonald are both UFA's and I'm sure won't be around. Gustavsson's an RFA and unless he takes over the #1 spot... they'll need someone else to.

They need to sign 4 forwards, 2 defencemen and 2 goalies with just under $20M.

That 20M is closer to 14.5M due to the fact there should be no bonus cushions next year.

I will assume Kadri makes the team, therefore it is 3 or 4 forwards, 2 defensemen and 2 goalies with 13M (not including a cushion for injuries).

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http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Andy-Strickland/Players-Revolt-In-TorontoPerron-Off-PP/5/23663

Players revolting in TO against Wilson? I wouldn't be surprised. If I was Hagman I'd ask for a trade, ditto Stajan and if anyone would take me, I'd ask if I was Blake as well.

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Strickland's right, the players have been revolting. Now with a POLL! Is the Ron Wilson death watch on? (Possible player revolt?) - Page 9 455378

Oh boy, what an awful situation though. First Ottawa two seasons ago, then Montreal last season, now Toronto.

The NE has seen a lot of trainwrecks recently.

And, going by current patterns, the Leafs should be 1st place in the East this season:

2005-2006: Ottawa wins NE, 1st place in East
2006-2007: Buffalo wins NE, 1st place in East
2007-2008: Montreal wins NE, 1st place in East
2008-2009: Boston wins NE, 1st place in East

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SpezDispenser wrote:http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Andy-Strickland/Players-Revolt-In-TorontoPerron-Off-PP/5/23663

Players revolting in TO against Wilson? I wouldn't be surprised. If I was Hagman I'd ask for a trade, ditto Stajan and if anyone would take me, I'd ask if I was Blake as well.
Holy crap... normally anything HBuzz would be laughed at but Strickland is pretty well connected and doesn't BS. This could get very bad.

If push comes to shove, the players will lose and Burke will trade all their asses out of town.



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asq2 wrote:Strickland's right, the players have been revolting. Now with a POLL! Is the Ron Wilson death watch on? (Possible player revolt?) - Page 9 455378

Oh boy, what an awful situation though. First Ottawa two seasons ago, then Montreal last season, now Toronto.

The NE has seen a lot of trainwrecks recently.

And, going by current patterns, the Leafs should be 1st place in the East this season:

2005-2006: Ottawa wins NE, 1st place in East
2006-2007: Buffalo wins NE, 1st place in East
2007-2008: Montreal wins NE, 1st place in East
2008-2009: Boston wins NE, 1st place in East

Laughing3 All of this post amuses me, I won't lie.

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shabbs wrote:
SpezDispenser wrote:http://www.hockeybuzz.com/blog/Andy-Strickland/Players-Revolt-In-TorontoPerron-Off-PP/5/23663

Players revolting in TO against Wilson? I wouldn't be surprised. If I was Hagman I'd ask for a trade, ditto Stajan and if anyone would take me, I'd ask if I was Blake as well.
Holy crap... normally anything HBuzz would be laughed at but Strickland is pretty well connected and doesn't BS. This could get very bad.

I know, but who's in this revolt? Stajan, Hagman, Blake? Hagman and Stajan can be traded, but Blake should probably watch out, no team can afford him, no team has a use for him (right now) and his price tag is hefty. He has a NTC, not a NMC I believe, so he could be one heck of a well paid Toronto Marlie if he isn't careful.

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That's not so bad. He wouldn't even have to move.

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asq2 wrote:That's not so bad. He wouldn't even have to move.

:^^^^:

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Players might be tuning Ron Wilson out at this point. It doesn't matter how good or bad of a coach he is.

We've seen it with Paddock and Hartsburg right here in Ottawa.

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RobbyJ wrote:
shabbs wrote:
Kovalfie wrote:Looking at the Leaf's UFAs next year, it looks like Toronto will have plenty of cap room and can add two-three top tier forwards to their developing young core. If I were Burke I think I'd put all my eggs in one basket and try to lure Kovalchuk out of Atlanta. It's obvious the Thrashers are trying to keep Ilya there surrounding him with Russian 'comrades' much like the Caps did in Washington with Ovechkin, but something tells me a person as skilled as Kovalchuk will flourish more in the spotlight. Savard would be a good plan B as would someone like Marleau, but if Burke wants to make a difference he better sign the marquee UFA to save face.
They'll also need to sign/acquire a #1 goalie. Toskala and MacDonald are both UFA's and I'm sure won't be around. Gustavsson's an RFA and unless he takes over the #1 spot... they'll need someone else to.

They need to sign 4 forwards, 2 defencemen and 2 goalies with just under $20M.

That 20M is closer to 14.5M due to the fact there should be no bonus cushions next year.

I will assume Kadri makes the team, therefore it is 3 or 4 forwards, 2 defensemen and 2 goalies with 13M (not including a cushion for injuries).

Boy, the Marlies will be in tough next year with half a lineup of rookies.


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wprager wrote:
Boy, the Marlies will be in tough next year with half a lineup of rookies.

Or they'll be amazing with a full lineup of Jason Blakes.

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SpezDispenser wrote:
wprager wrote:
Boy, the Marlies will be in tough next year with half a lineup of rookies.

Or they'll be amazing with a full lineup of Jason Blakes.

I love it. I really don't think the Leafs are that far off from being a playoff team. That being said, Burke has to take his foot out of his mouth and do something already. Sure Kessell was a bold move but two first round picks while you're trying to rebuild? I still don't get it!!!

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In the article on TSN, Brian Burke said this move was all about this year Now with a POLL! Is the Ron Wilson death watch on? (Possible player revolt?) - Page 9 30582 wasn't everything they did supposed to be about the "5 year plan"?? Where does inspiring mediocrity come into this supposed plan? How can they possibly justify what they are doing? Was the plan actually to mortgage the future to make an ill-fated run at the cup within this 5 year window? Does he really think the Cup will be Toronto-bound 4 years from now? Could he really be that Diddling stupid?

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A Sens Chirp commenter has the funniest summary I ever read of Burke's tenure with the leafs :

Brian Burke's franchise rebuilding plan:

step 1) Spout off at
the draft about moving up to select john tavares, fail miserably by
refusing to trade young pylon luke schenn for a clear cut franchise
player.

step 2) Trade a talented defenceman to the thrashers for a pylon only because he will occasionally chuck some knuckles.

step
3) Sign a big pylon just because he can deliver a decent hit, slap the
A on his #8 jersey and expect him to be a star, demonstrating your
clear bias towards american players.

step 4) Sign a defenceman
from your former team who made you look good once in a trade in the
hopes he'll still make you look good. When he also shats the bed, due
to not having a hall of famer to help pad his stats, keep pretending to
still believe in him also.

step 5) Create undue hype around two
undrafted college players you signed, despite them both being passed
over by the thousands of NHL scouts who check all corners of the world
and yet somehow missed these two gems in their backyard.

step 6)
Stick with the undrafted route, and sign unproven swedish goaltender
whose enormous size may well be the only reason he has good stats, and
was being pursued by most other teams as a backup/minor league option.
Again, be sure to create hype. Follow up by trading former goalie of
the future to ducks for bag of pucks.

step 7) In a coup de gras
that will be remembered for ages, trade the next two years' first round
picks, a second round pick, and indirectly a third, in order to obtain
one player who's point totals have only reached the 60 point mark, and
who has had a WHOPPING 36 goal season. Proceed to sign him to a 5 and a
half million dollar, 5 year contract at the height of your supposed
rebuild. Since these three picks will almost surely be top ten picks in
the draft order, Boston will reap great rewards, and Leaf fans will
watch those players mature on another team as Phil Kessel remains an
above average talent with too big a salary for what he contributes.

Enjoy the glory of Burke,
Leaf Nation.

0-6 and counting.

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Seen some rumblings about bringing Shanny to Toronto to provide some leadership and direction. Not a bad idea, but they don't exactly have a lot of cap space to throw at him.

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shabbs wrote:Seen some rumblings about bringing Shanny to Toronto to provide some leadership and direction. Not a bad idea, but they don't exactly have a lot of cap space to throw at him.

Exactly what the doctor ordered...another old, slow as molasses hockey player who won't be able to put the puck in the net. Perfect!

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