Summer Dany Heatley hits

SpezDispenser wrote:There might be a bigger deal coming...anyone hearing that as well?

I'm hearing the Rangers are on this Dung like white on rice.

SpezDispenser wrote:There might be a bigger deal coming...anyone hearing that as well?

no - but you have to hope. We'll see if Murray can pull off some magic. Murray may now wait until some teams (i.e. Minnesota) strike out on free agents later this afternoon.

Bass Destruction wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

PKC wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:

PKC wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:Bury his a$$ in Bingo... He doesn't have to clear waivers if he starts the season there... thus his NMC means nothing.

A NMC means you can't demote or trade a player without his approval. The Sens couldn't send him down to the AHL ever.

I'm pretty sure a NMC means you can't put him on waivers. I'll look into the official CBA, but i'm pretty sure i'm right about this one.

Look it up, I'm pretty sure the NMC disallows the team's ability to waive, demote to the minors or trade a player without his approval.

NMC = a no-movement clause = you can't move the player ANYWHERE. Not waivers, not the minors, not to another team in the NHL. Trade him where he wants, buy him out, or let him play. Those are your only options with a player with a NMC.

that's the thing, it doesn't say that... It says he can't be placed on waivers, can't be loaned, and can't be traded... Being sent to Bingo to start the season, legally, doesn't fall into any of those categories. It's an absolute waste of money, fine, but I do believe we have the legal right to do so.

I'm basing this on precedent. The Leafs couldn't do squat with McCabe. If they could have found a way to assign him to the Marlies before the season started.

I know the CBA wording doesn't explicitly deal with this, but I'm quite confident that it wouldn't be an option.

SpezDispenser wrote:There might be a bigger deal coming...anyone hearing that as well?

Where are you hearing that? How can there be a better deal out there? I would think Murray tried to get Heatley to waive to go to Edmonton because he thought that was the best deal available. If there was a better one why go through all this with Edmonton? Unless this new one was just called in? Seems unlikely though.

PKC wrote:

SpezDispenser wrote:There might be a bigger deal coming...anyone hearing that as well?

I'm hearing the Rangers are on this Dung like white on rice.

Yeah...there's something all diddled up here. He's not owed the 4 million bonus until midnight tomorrow. There are other teams on the board here.

Best bet may be to wait and see where the Sedins go. If they move on from Vancouver, Gillis will be DESPERATE.

rooneypoo wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

PKC wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:

PKC wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:Bury his a$$ in Bingo... He doesn't have to clear waivers if he starts the season there... thus his NMC means nothing.

A NMC means you can't demote or trade a player without his approval. The Sens couldn't send him down to the AHL ever.

I'm pretty sure a NMC means you can't put him on waivers. I'll look into the official CBA, but i'm pretty sure i'm right about this one.

Look it up, I'm pretty sure the NMC disallows the team's ability to waive, demote to the minors or trade a player without his approval.

NMC = a no-movement clause = you can't move the player ANYWHERE. Not waivers, not the minors, not to another team in the NHL. Trade him where he wants, buy him out, or let him play. Those are your only options with a player with a NMC.

that's the thing, it doesn't say that... It says he can't be placed on waivers, can't be loaned, and can't be traded... Being sent to Bingo to start the season, legally, doesn't fall into any of those categories. It's an absolute waste of money, fine, but I do believe we have the legal right to do so.

I'm basing this on precedent. The Leafs couldn't do squat with McCabe. If they could have found a way to assign him to the Marlies before the season started.

I know the CBA wording doesn't explicitly deal with this, but I'm quite confident that it wouldn't be an option.

My head knows you're right... But my heart is so pissed off that it wants blood. Melnyk should get his lawyers on this. Of course it would mean that other players would probably think twice about signing with us. Wonder what his mom is going to say this time about his character?!?!

rooneypoo wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

PKC wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:

PKC wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:Bury his a$$ in Bingo... He doesn't have to clear waivers if he starts the season there... thus his NMC means nothing.

A NMC means you can't demote or trade a player without his approval. The Sens couldn't send him down to the AHL ever.

I'm pretty sure a NMC means you can't put him on waivers. I'll look into the official CBA, but i'm pretty sure i'm right about this one.

Look it up, I'm pretty sure the NMC disallows the team's ability to waive, demote to the minors or trade a player without his approval.

NMC = a no-movement clause = you can't move the player ANYWHERE. Not waivers, not the minors, not to another team in the NHL. Trade him where he wants, buy him out, or let him play. Those are your only options with a player with a NMC.

that's the thing, it doesn't say that... It says he can't be placed on waivers, can't be loaned, and can't be traded... Being sent to Bingo to start the season, legally, doesn't fall into any of those categories. It's an absolute waste of money, fine, but I do believe we have the legal right to do so.

I'm basing this on precedent. The Leafs couldn't do squat with McCabe. If they could have found a way to assign him to the Marlies before the season started.

I know the CBA wording doesn't explicitly deal with this, but I'm quite confident that it wouldn't be an option.

Either way, it shouldn't be an option. The last thing we need is to have this rotting away our farm system. Plus, what a nice welcome to the new coach, whoever it ends up being: "So, here's your desk, here's your whistle, aaaaannnnd here's your disgruntled cast-off Have fun!"

I think Murray might have as many as three other offers on the table. And I think at least one of them is to a team that Heatley will accept. I still think he gets traded tomorrow, I just hope the return doesn't kill us.

yeah garrioch was writting heatley+ agent are trying to deal their own deal with the NYR... this just fracked everything... if he goes to the rangers and we have to swallow that 4 mill i want a much bigger deal! one that includes Stall and a whole bunch of other pieces...

Flo The Action wrote:yeah garrioch was writting heatley+ agent are trying to deal their own deal with the NYR... this just fracked everything... if he goes to the rangers and we have to swallow that 4 mill i want a much bigger deal! one that includes Stall and a whole bunch of other pieces...

Maybe Dubinsky and Roszival.

I just wanna know what in the Diddle good name of the Lord is happening with this trade/guy.

What does all this information mean?

1. Why was the trade reported as completed before Heatley approved?
2. Why are we just now learning about the extension to Heatley's bonus payout?
3. Why are there other offers there now but not before?

cas wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:Bury his a$$ in Bingo... He doesn't have to clear waivers if he starts the season there... thus his NMC means nothing.

That would be like intentionally poisoning our prospects for some quasi-spite... No thanks.

Yeah, same reason we never sent Emery in Bingo after he pulled all the crap!

I'm sure Murray has 3 bad offers on the table.

Flo The Action wrote:yeah garrioch was writting heatley+ agent are trying to deal their own deal with the NYR... this just fracked everything... if he goes to the rangers and we have to swallow that 4 mill i want a much bigger deal! one that includes Stall and a whole bunch of other pieces...

I hope this teaches Murray a lesson about NT/MC's... Next time some dick head asks for one, he can just point to this situation and say "I don't think so..."

cas wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:

rooneypoo wrote:

PKC wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:

PKC wrote:

Bass Destruction wrote:Bury his a$$ in Bingo... He doesn't have to clear waivers if he starts the season there... thus his NMC means nothing.

A NMC means you can't demote or trade a player without his approval. The Sens couldn't send him down to the AHL ever.

I'm pretty sure a NMC means you can't put him on waivers. I'll look into the official CBA, but i'm pretty sure i'm right about this one.

Look it up, I'm pretty sure the NMC disallows the team's ability to waive, demote to the minors or trade a player without his approval.

NMC = a no-movement clause = you can't move the player ANYWHERE. Not waivers, not the minors, not to another team in the NHL. Trade him where he wants, buy him out, or let him play. Those are your only options with a player with a NMC.

that's the thing, it doesn't say that... It says he can't be placed on waivers, can't be loaned, and can't be traded... Being sent to Bingo to start the season, legally, doesn't fall into any of those categories. It's an absolute waste of money, fine, but I do believe we have the legal right to do so.

I'm basing this on precedent. The Leafs couldn't do squat with McCabe. If they could have found a way to assign him to the Marlies before the season started.

I know the CBA wording doesn't explicitly deal with this, but I'm quite confident that it wouldn't be an option.

Either way, it shouldn't be an option. The last thing we need is to have this rotting away our farm system. Plus, what a nice welcome to the new coach, whoever it ends up being: "So, here's your desk, here's your whistle, aaaaannnnd here's your disgruntled cast-off Have fun!"

Technically, if you can send to the AHL, why stop there... I hear the ECHL is a nice league to play in too... :^^^^:

dennycrane wrote:I'm sure Murray has 3 bad offers on the table.

What's really disconcerting about this 'deal' is that there are zero picks / prospects on the table. Looks to me like BM isn't interested in building for the future, but wants a return that will serve us now. That strikes me as a big mistake. But maybe that's not entirely his fault.

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