EJ Hradek and NHL Live Reporting Dany Heatley has requested a trade

shabbs wrote:Re: the drugs....

Well, if that's the Dung that's been going on, no wonder we suck so bad. You think Detroit and Pitt's players are doing that? Hell no. They're sucking it up and laying it on the line.

Frig man.

Where's our Captain when all this is going down...?

Baby sitting his own kids.

marakh wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:

marakh wrote:Did you guys follow Edmonton the last weeks of the season? If Sam Gagner becomes a Senator, I'll take Penner and a 1st with him.
Penner, Gagner and 10th overall, I do it. I think Sam Gagner gets 70 points next season.

Dustin Penner, Sam Gagner and we draft OEL/Cowen + Scott Glennie/Kadri/Kassian/Josefson. Would rock my socks.

If we take Penner, its a favour, better be more than that coming back, Gilbert or Cogliano.

My bad, Penner still has 3 years left on his contract. I thought we would get rid of him next year :^^^^:

Ok, so I'll change that to Gagner, 10th overall and Visnovsky for Heatley and Jason Smith (send the dude back home).
The thing is, we will have to take salary back, no matter what... I don't think getting 2 good young players (if we add cogliano) and a top 10 pick will happen, as much as I'd like it to...

DEAL. Visnovsky is the catch I always thought we missed. He has a NTC though, do you think he would want to leave the Oil?

SpezDispenser wrote:

shabbs wrote:Re: the drugs....

Well, if that's the Dung that's been going on, no wonder we suck so bad. You think Detroit and Pitt's players are doing that? Hell no. They're sucking it up and laying it on the line.

Frig man.

Where's our Captain when all this is going down...?

Nowhere within 100 miles of a bar like that with drugs like that and call girls. Serious issues coming to surface.

But...I have to leave that alone now. It's done, he's no longer our concern. He should get help at some point, but at this point, I could care less.

Wasnt it a little over a year ago I was getting absolutly sh it on for saying this stuff? I mean, people were ruthless with me.

SpezDispenser wrote:

marakh wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:

marakh wrote:Did you guys follow Edmonton the last weeks of the season? If Sam Gagner becomes a Senator, I'll take Penner and a 1st with him.
Penner, Gagner and 10th overall, I do it. I think Sam Gagner gets 70 points next season.

Dustin Penner, Sam Gagner and we draft OEL/Cowen + Scott Glennie/Kadri/Kassian/Josefson. Would rock my socks.

If we take Penner, its a favour, better be more than that coming back, Gilbert or Cogliano.

My bad, Penner still has 3 years left on his contract. I thought we would get rid of him next year :^^^^:

Ok, so I'll change that to Gagner, 10th overall and Visnovsky for Heatley and Jason Smith (send the dude back home).
The thing is, we will have to take salary back, no matter what... I don't think getting 2 good young players (if we add cogliano) and a top 10 pick will happen, as much as I'd like it to...

DEAL. Visnovsky is the catch I always thought we missed. He has a NTC though, do you think he would want to leave the Oil?

I don;t know...
Gilbert would be perfect, but they won't trade him before Souray or Visnovsky.
If they add HEatley, they definitely get rid of one of the 3.
There's so much that can be worked between the two teams, We coudl send LEe if they want, or Auld.

Neely4Life wrote:
Wasnt it a little over a year ago I was getting absolutly sh it on for saying this stuff? I mean, people were ruthless with me.

I tell ya, I can't believe someone I don't know personally and for a long, long time. When I was told this today - I was surprised, not because I don't listen to you, but because I choose to not believe it until me or someone I know personally and (fairly) closely tells me that they saw it with their own 2 eyes.

It's nothing against you. :^^^^:

But, this is the time for Heater to get the Diddle out of here. Rumours like these won't go away I'm sure.

marakh wrote:I don;t know...
Gilbert would be perfect, but they won't trade him before Souray or Visnovsky.
If they add HEatley, they definitely get rid of one of the 3.
There's so much that can be worked between the two teams, We coudl send LEe if they want, or Auld.

Yeah, no, you sold me. Visnovsky is the BOMB. Fantastic puck moving, QB PP.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:
Wasnt it a little over a year ago I was getting absolutly sh it on for saying this stuff? I mean, people were ruthless with me.

I tell ya, I can't believe someone I don't know personally and for a long, long time. When I was told this today - I was surprised, not because I don't listen to you, but because I choose to not believe it until me or someone I know personally and (fairly) closely tells me that they saw it with their own 2 eyes.

It's nothing against you. :^^^^:

But, this is the time for Heater to get the Diddle out of here. Rumours like these won't go away I'm sure.

The night with McGrattan was fun on the all star break, haha. The weekend Emery went missing I was literally party with Grats in Toronto...

SpezDispenser wrote:

shabbs wrote:Re: the drugs....

Well, if that's the Dung that's been going on, no wonder we suck so bad. You think Detroit and Pitt's players are doing that? Hell no. They're sucking it up and laying it on the line.

Frig man.

Where's our Captain when all this is going down...?

Nowhere within 100 miles of a bar like that with drugs like that and call girls. Serious issues coming to surface.

But...I have to leave that alone now. It's done, he's no longer our concern. He should get help at some point, but at this point, I could care less.

Meh... I'm getting sick of hearing about these clowns and their drugs... it really pisses me off.

I'm hoping Clouston can start to weed these fukkers out for Murray to banish... we don't need it, I don't care how many goals they score or points they put up or shutouts they get... we gotta have no tolerance for this crap... I don't care how far back it sets us.

McGrattan was fun, dumb as a stump though.

shabbs wrote:
Meh... I'm getting sick of hearing about these clowns and their drugs... it really pisses me off.

I'm hoping Clouston can start to weed these fukkers out for Murray to banish... we don't need it, I don't care how many goals they score or points they put up or shutouts they get... we gotta have no tolerance for this crap... I don't care how far back it sets us.

Me too. That's why I wasn't told about it face to face until today. It really pisses me off. What right do they have to Diddle themselves up like that, when I pay hard earned money to buy tickets (and they don't perform).

Not fair. Get lost.

Neely4Life wrote:McGrattan was fun, dumb as a stump though.

He was cool actually. One of the few guys we met on the way to Anaheim that had time to stop and chill for a bit. Comrie, Alfie and Fisher were also amazing.

SpezDispenser wrote:

Neely4Life wrote:McGrattan was fun, dumb as a stump though.

He was cool actually. One of the few guys we met on the way to Anaheim that had time to stop and chill for a bit. Comrie, Alfie and Fisher were also amazing.

Loves good music as well! hahaha

I'm not upset at Heatley for requesting a trade. What will make me upset is if he is a prick about waiving his NTC. Look, if he's unhappy, fine. But he had better provide a list a lot longer than one team (Vancouver) that he is willing to go to. Because Bryan Murray can be a real prick. He won't take a sub-standard deal. He won't take a break-even deal. Murray is getting a real good player back, a great rookie, and at least 2 high draft picks. Until that is offered, Heatley goes nowhere.

As far as drinking/drugs/women, get real. These are pro athletes, and things are exactly the same in all 30 cities, and Ottawa is no different. They all party hard.

dennycrane wrote:I'm not upset at Heatley for requesting a trade. What will make me upset is if he is a prick about waiving his NTC. Look, if he's unhappy, fine. But he had better provide a list a lot longer than one team (Vancouver) that he is willing to go to. Because Bryan Murray can be a real prick. He won't take a sub-standard deal. He won't take a break-even deal. Murray is getting a real good player back, a great rookie, and at least 2 high draft picks. Until that is offered, Heatley goes nowhere.

As far as drinking/drugs/women, get real. These are pro athletes, and things are exactly the same in all 30 cities, and Ottawa is no different. They all party hard.

Nicely said.

The drugs are an issue though. Random drug tests coming. Kelly (NHLPA Head) needs to talk the players into it.

Funny, he's having a hard time.

The drinking and women I have no issue with... and fully expect... but the drugs... maybe I'm naive I guess...

dennycrane wrote:I'm not upset at Heatley for requesting a trade. What will make me upset is if he is a prick about waiving his NTC. Look, if he's unhappy, fine. But he had better provide a list a lot longer than one team (Vancouver) that he is willing to go to. Because Bryan Murray can be a real prick. He won't take a sub-standard deal. He won't take a break-even deal. Murray is getting a real good player back, a great rookie, and at least 2 high draft picks. Until that is offered, Heatley goes nowhere.

As far as drinking/drugs/women, get real. These are pro athletes, and things are exactly the same in all 30 cities, and Ottawa is no different. They all party hard.

Yaaaaaa, well in Ottawa it was a problem, that's why one of the crew went to rehab.

If someone busts a rail here and there, w/e, someone wants to pop a pill and have a good night out, go for it. A wed night after a game and then going home to do some more, its a problem. Drugs is what destroyed Ottawa, trust me on that one.

shabbs wrote:The drinking and women I have no issue with... and fully expect... but the drugs... maybe I'm naive I guess...

Only cool people do drugs buddy.

Drugs are a lot more common than you think, though. If Heatley was on something like ice or heroin though, that's fuc***.

Neely4Life wrote:

shabbs wrote:The drinking and women I have no issue with... and fully expect... but the drugs... maybe I'm naive I guess...

Only cool people do drugs buddy.

Drugs are a lot more common than you think, though. If Heatley was on something like ice or heroin though, that's fuc***.

That's what irks me I guess... if they're into heavy stuff... it boggles my mind... to be honest, I see weed as being no different than booze... but coke, e, heroin etc... is some scary crap.

I don't want this to turn into a detailed drug analysis so I'll leave it at that. The Sens have/had issues... they need to be addressed/cleaned up... we seem to be on the way... we'll get there.