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The situation with Schubert

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46The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 8:55 am

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Why not bring Meszaros back too so my Wife can wear her game worn Meszaros Jersey too? Sarcasm

47The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 11:51 am

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sheesh next thing you know the Daigle Sens jerseys will start popping up again, talk about stroll down bumpy memory lane Laughing3

48The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 11:56 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:Why not bring Meszaros back too so my Wife can wear her game worn Meszaros Jersey too? Sarcasm

Strip off the "1" and done.

49The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 11:57 am

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
Yeah but, the fans that bought Yashin Jersey's can now take the Duct tape off of the name and wear them hesitantly to the games again Wink

FYP

50The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 12:10 pm

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Cap'n Clutch wrote:
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wprager wrote:Sp00nz!

Although I'd love to see *that* top line, you can't put Yashin on a line with Alfie. It would be heart and anti-heart, like matter and anti-matter. A big explosion and the world of a clean up.

Also, he would not go for $2.5M and I would never want to give it to him.

Heh i didn't think about that, there is probably still some bad blood between Yashin and Alfie. I do remember in game 4 of the first series against Buffalo that had Alfie setting up Yashin for an OT goal, but that was long ago.

Im just desperate for a 60 point guy, i believe Yashin could do that. I don't think it would happen, but it would be a nice story Smile

and just when i was gonna paint spezza above number 19... so would it be yashin #9?
heck, i still wear that jersey but if he'd come back i think i'll buy a ruttuu jersey and retire the yashin one for good.

Nice?

I wonder if he'd survive the first drive to the rink.
I'm sure there are more than a few fans that would be quite ready to run him off the road...he certainly did his best to piss off a few people while he was here.

Yeah but, the fans that bought Yashin Jersey's can now take the Duct tape off of the name and wear them proudly to the games again Wink

51The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 3:00 pm

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If the Sens were going for a cup and looking for a guy to produce at a 50-60 point rate, cheap, then sure Yashin would be ideal IMO. Doesnt matter about the past IF there was a solid core group of guys with character and heart.

Currently, adding Yashin to the Sens roster would not only be laughable, it would be down right pathetic. I realize the idea is to win now, but there is no shot the Sens can win now with the current roster.

Yashin would be a good 2nd, 3rd line center for a contending team looking for a cheap peice. In Ottawa I dont think there could be a worse fit.

52The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 3:13 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:If the Sens were going for a cup and looking for a guy to produce at a 50-60 point rate, cheap, then sure Yashin would be ideal IMO. Doesnt matter about the past IF there was a solid core group of guys with character and heart.

Currently, adding Yashin to the Sens roster would not only be laughable, it would be down right pathetic. I realize the idea is to win now, but there is no shot the Sens can win now with the current roster.

Yashin would be a good 2nd, 3rd line center for a contending team looking for a cheap peice. In Ottawa I dont think there could be a worse fit.

I agree. If this team was just looking to add a 2nd or third line Center that has some skill in order to get to the finals and win it all then I'm sure the Yashin hate would fade as the team advanced through the rounds but that's not the case.


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53The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 3:18 pm

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Exactly.

54The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 3:20 pm

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Look at the Hurricanes. Nice make up of a team, but definitely didn't scream Conference Final to me. We have the goalie to get as far, we have the forwards - and if you believe Carolina has the D, then we're getting closer and closer.

To add poison into the water like Yashin, is to take the train off the tracks and put us back even farther. As it is, we'd be lucky to get to the ECF by 10/11 - probably more like 11/12 - and that's without adding a disgusting little bastard like Alexei Yashin.

55The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 3:31 pm

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504Heater wrote:Look at the Hurricanes. Nice make up of a team, but definitely didn't scream Conference Final to me. We have the goalie to get as far, we have the forwards - and if you believe Carolina has the D, then we're getting closer and closer.

To add poison into the water like Yashin, is to take the train off the tracks and put us back even farther. As it is, we'd be lucky to get to the ECF by 10/11 - probably more like 11/12 - and that's without adding a disgusting little bastard like Alexei Yashin.

Cleary was poision in the water... not so bad now.

56The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 3:37 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:
Cleary was poision in the water... not so bad now.

I'm not willing to take that chance on Yashin personally. Cleary was a walk on for Detroit when his career was about to end, he had no choice but to stop partying or his career was done.

Yashin can't cure bunghole.

57The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 3:46 pm

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Yashin isnt as bad as a lot of people in Ottawa make him out to be. He screwed the Sens when he was a kid, get over it. He is still good enough to be in the NHL and be productive in the right situation.

58The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 3:54 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:Yashin isnt as bad as a lot of people in Ottawa make him out to be. He screwed the Sens when he was a kid, get over it. He is still good enough to be in the NHL and be productive in the right situation.

Thats just it with Yashin. I think all the contract disputes had more to do with his agent than Yashin himself. My girlfriend of the time's friend lived next to him,and he really was a very nice guy. Carol Alt on the other hand . . .

All in all i doubt it will happen for a variety of reasons, it would just be nice to add a second line centre without having to subtract from the current roster or prospect pool.

59The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 4:05 pm

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Neely4Life wrote:Yashin isnt as bad as a lot of people in Ottawa make him out to be. He screwed the Sens when he was a kid, get over it. He is still good enough to be in the NHL and be productive in the right situation.

There's a reason the Islanders spent 18 million dollars to be rid of him. He's a total and complete arsehole in every sense of the word. The definition of a 'me first' player.

60The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 4:06 pm

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Sp00nz wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Yashin isnt as bad as a lot of people in Ottawa make him out to be. He screwed the Sens when he was a kid, get over it. He is still good enough to be in the NHL and be productive in the right situation.

Thats just it with Yashin. I think all the contract disputes had more to do with his agent than Yashin himself. My girlfriend of the time's friend lived next to him,and he really was a very nice guy. Carol Alt on the other hand . . .

All in all i doubt it will happen for a variety of reasons, it would just be nice to add a second line centre without having to subtract from the current roster or prospect pool.

Yashin got a lot of bad advice. I wasnt going to open up this can of worms, but I blame the agent way more than I do Yashin. He was a dedicated hockey player who had an agent, who's main goal was to get every last cent for himself and his client (more so himself).

There is a nice little article in THN about him when he first came into The NHL and Ottawa. Very dedicated, a very good kid, and a very good hockey player. He was new to The NHL and NA, he was used by his agent and it cost him. He was put into a no win situation in Long Island with bad ownership and managment. He was given a contract he couldnt possibly live up to. Show me a person who would turn down that kind of cash.

People in Ottawa hold on to a grudge waaaaaaay too long. It blows my mind how people will hold on to this and then the same people let guys like Heatley and Spezza get away with the things they do. Yashin was younger than Spezza is now, just to put things into perspective. So before people trash Yashin, take a look at whats going on now. The big difference is Spezza and Healtey got their money in Ottawa with NTC's, not dealt before hand.

What Yashin did was wrong, but there were other factors than just the player being selfish.

61The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 4:09 pm

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504Heater wrote:
Neely4Life wrote:Yashin isnt as bad as a lot of people in Ottawa make him out to be. He screwed the Sens when he was a kid, get over it. He is still good enough to be in the NHL and be productive in the right situation.

There's a reason the Islanders spent 18 million dollars to be rid of him. He's a total and complete arsehole in every sense of the word. The definition of a 'me first' player.

How is he an a**hole. By all accounts he is actually a pretty down to earth, decent guy. Milbury gave him a contract he couldnt possibly live up to, gave him the "c" when he isnt that kind of guy or player, and had no one else around him to give him any kind of support.

The salary cap came in after he had that deal signed and the Islanders had to move on. It all falls on Yashin but it wasnt because he was an "a**hole".

62The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 4:14 pm

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I'd rather not get into a great Yashin debate. Let's just say that what went down here was not cool - and I supported him as long as I could (until he turned into a complete arse).

I choose not to get over it, because he's a nothing now. He's playing in Siberia and can't make it back to the NHL. And it couldn't happen to a better guy.

63The situation with Schubert - Page 4 Empty Re: The situation with Schubert Mon May 25, 2009 4:17 pm

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There are plenty of guys who could very well be in the same boat as Yashin if they were not Canadian or American.

Total double standard.

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