Vermette to NAS for Hamhuis?

don't know Hamhuis at all, so I really cannot comment. I do know that Vermette's fire and heart will be hard to replace

Still...Vermette's on pace for his 2nd highest point totals as a Sen after a disastrous beginning in a terrible system.

Just do it Murray! Like a band-aid, just get it done and I'll move on...

I love you (now) Vermie. Boo hoo hoo.

Oh, I don't mean to imply the New and improved Vermette we've been treated to recently is here to stay? In fact, as you pointed out Clutch, if history has taught us anything it's that he will go back to be a big ol floppy donkey dong in no time... *nice visual, eh?* LOL

Now, seriously though, it's when he turns it on that he pays dividends, and to lose that, as inconsistent as it can and has been, will still hurt; however, if Murray can find a replacement who not only brings the same skills and intangibles (or more) and can do it cheaper, than I am open to suggestions, but I maintain that losing Vermette will hurt, end of story.

Jordo wrote:
Vermette's played well in the past 10 games, I agree... but let's not get carried away here.

20 points in his last 23. Better than he gets credit for, game in game out.

beedub wrote:don't know Hamhuis at all, so I really cannot comment. I do know that Vermette's fire and heart will be hard to replace

How's that for funny. Here I am saying I don't know Hamhuis very well, yet I traded for him in the GM game LOL

Trading Vermette is a mistake. N4L is right when he says that there is no more complete player on this team, besides Alfie.

He's just entering his prime and he's putting up a ppg (almost) over the past two months. Yeah, I know he did the same thing last season at this time, but there's no harm in seeing what he's got under Clouston for another 12 months. We can always trade him next deadline, if thats the thing to do...

It would be tough to lose Vermie but if Comrie resigns then it won't sting quite as much.

Hamhuis is one of those guys that's just really underrated. If he played in this market he'd get a lot more notoriety. He can play in all situations and can play big minutes.

Phillips - Volchenkov
Campoli - Hamhuis

This way we can focus more on the goaltending situation as well.

nothing wrong with playing the waiting game either cash, we have vermette signed at a near bargain for another year.

Courtesy of Enoch on HFBoards:

(Hamhuis) is a two way defenseman, he has well above average passing skills, with a slightly above average shot for a defenseman. He moves well, and his best attribute is his positioning. He thinks the game well. He is not a bruiser along the boards consistently, but he will throw a thunderous hip check in big spots. His physicality is mostly via hip check, in the open ice he is more apt to use a poke check then his body. Excellent on the pk. He could score 35-40 points each year if given more powerplay time. Trotz likes to save him for the PK, but he has started to give him more PP time on the second unit with Ville being a perma-scratch. A true number 2 defenseman on an elite team, but he is capable of serving as a number 1. Keep in mind when looking at statistics the lack of powerplay time the past two-to-three seasons is due to having some of the best offensive defensemen in the game on our blueline (Kimmo, Zidlicky, etc.)

Cronie wrote:While I would love to see Hamhuis don a Sens uni, losing Vermette will hurt a LOT. And Clutch, who could Murray target in July that could bring what Vermette has been contributing?

If he is available, Matt Duchene can do what Vermette does, possibly even better. He's an all-around player. That being said, there's no guarantee we can draft him.

Perhaps Zack Smith is ready to be thew new Vermette?

Urkie wrote:Phillips - Volchenkov
Campoli - Hamhuis

NO!

Why would we continue to pair two defensive d-men together, and then pair two offensive ones together? That wreaks of disaster.

Try spreading out that diversity - go Hamhuis-Phillips/Voclehnkov and Campoli-Phillips/Volchenkov.

504Heater wrote:Courtesy of Enoch on HFBoards:

(Hamhuis) is a two way defenseman, he has well above average passing skills, with a slightly above average shot for a defenseman. He moves well, and his best attribute is his positioning. He thinks the game well. He is not a bruiser along the boards consistently, but he will throw a thunderous hip check in big spots. His physicality is mostly via hip check, in the open ice he is more apt to use a poke check then his body. Excellent on the pk. He could score 35-40 points each year if given more powerplay time. Trotz likes to save him for the PK, but he has started to give him more PP time on the second unit with Ville being a perma-scratch. A true number 2 defenseman on an elite team, but he is capable of serving as a number 1. Keep in mind when looking at statistics the lack of powerplay time the past two-to-three seasons is due to having some of the best offensive defensemen in the game on our blueline (Kimmo, Zidlicky, etc.)

Exactly, it would be tough to lose Vermie but Hamhuis is the kind of defensemen we really need right now. As I said and as you said, he can play in all situations and can play big minutes.

I would consider it a steal almost if they gave us Hamhuis straight up for Vermette. He's that good.

Hamhuis has some nice defensive attributes. I'd like to see the shut-down pairing taken off the first unit in favour of a high octane scoring unit.

Heatley-Spezza-The Alfie
Campoli-Hamhuis

SeawaySensFan wrote:Hamhuis has some nice defensive attributes. I'd like to see the shut-down pairing taken off the first unit in favour of a high octane scoring unit.

Heatley-Spezza-The Alfie
Campoli-Hamhuis

That would be one hell of a PP unit.

SensFan71 wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:Hamhuis has some nice defensive attributes. I'd like to see the shut-down pairing taken off the first unit in favour of a high octane scoring unit.

Heatley-Spezza-The Alfie
Campoli-Hamhuis

That would be one hell of a PP unit.

So will this in a couple of years:

Heatley - Spezza - Alfie
Karlsson - Wiercioch

Here's what I was going to say about the deal, but this is because I always thought of Hamhuis as a #3 dman... the HF Boards posting you just put up would suggest he is a legit #2 in which case I might reconsider...


I wouldn't do it as a solo deal. I might do it if you show me what forward player we get after the deal but I'm not excited about leaving it to the uncertainty of the UFA market.

It's probably one of the best returns we could get for a guy like Vermette, but IMO still not worth it. I don't see the void left on the PK being filled by anyone else and we are just starting to have some semblance of secondary scoring. I don't think Hamhuis' offensive upside would balance it out, so we would have to turn around and get another forward who can put up some points.

I'm basically hoping we have other trade-able players on our team who can get us decent dman value coming back. If not, well...

SensFan71 wrote:

Heatley-Spezza-The Alfie
Campoli-Hamhuis

That would be one hell of a PP unit.[/quote]

I think they'd be pretty lethal 5-on-5 as well.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SensFan71 wrote:

Heatley-Spezza-The Alfie
Campoli-Hamhuis

That would be one hell of a PP unit.

I think they'd be pretty lethal 5-on-5 as well.[/quote]

The pizza/cash line would be back, does Pizza Pizza (or whatever pizza place that was) still do that for home games?