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Brennan: Heatley will be a Shark "in the next two days."

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jamvan


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shabbs wrote:Sharks are going to have to dance with someone else at the same time in order to move salary.
No doubt, not too mention they don't have much under contract at the moment either.

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Unless it's Cheechoo who is one of the players coming this way....or not

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jamvan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Sharks are going to have to dance with someone else at the same time in order to move salary.
No doubt, not too mention they don't have much under contract at the moment either.
Indeed. They are at the cap with 18 players signed. They are indeed in the worst position of all the teams rumoured to be part of this three-way.

In order for this to make sense for San Jose to acquire Heatley, they are going to have to get rid of over $10M in salary in order to have space for Heatley and to fill in their roster.

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i agree that they have to make room but it not have to be with us and right now.
depending on who we get back if it's michalek 4.333.333 and ehrhoff 3.1, we're not far(less then 100.000) from heatleys 7.5.

to be honest it's us that will have to make room.

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Please let them deal with Chicago first to get Sharp.

I don't doubt this situation's coming to a head, but I want to make sure we get what we need from this. I'm nervous.

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shabbs wrote:
jamvan wrote:
shabbs wrote:Sharks are going to have to dance with someone else at the same time in order to move salary.
No doubt, not too mention they don't have much under contract at the moment either.
Indeed. They are at the cap with 18 players signed. They are indeed in the worst position of all the teams rumoured to be part of this three-way.

In order for this to make sense for San Jose to acquire Heatley, they are going to have to get rid of over $10M in salary in order to have space for Heatley and to fill in their roster.

that sounds pretty tough.....maybe the Rangers are going to come back into the picture now that Edmonton has offically cut ties with Dany...

1) They just walked away from Zerdev's award (500K difference)
2) They've got 2.8M in cap space so would want to send ~5M in salary Ottawa's way
3) They certainly still want Heately as it's against their nature to build a strong defence corps Smile

now what the peices would be....well, I'm not sure but I have a feeling the Sharks might not work out here....

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this is with the 8th D-man under contract though.

PLAYERBONUSCAP HIT
2009-2010 Ottawa Senators
FORWARDS
Jason Spezza $7,000,000
Alexei Kovalev $5,000,000
Daniel Alfredsson $4,875,000
* milan michalek $4,333,000
Mike Fisher $4,200,000
Chris Kelly $2,125,000
Chris Neil $2,000,000
Jarkko Ruutu $1,300,000
Nick Foligno ($65,000)$850,000
Shean Donovan $625,000
Peter Regin $607,500
Ryan Shannon $600,000
Jesse Winchester $550,000
DEFENSEMEN
Filip Kuba $3,700,000
Chris Phillips $3,500,000
* Christian Ehrhoff $3,100,000
Jason Smith $2,600,000
Anton Volchenkov $2,500,000
Brian Lee ($425,000)$1,275,000
Christoph Schubert $883,333
Alexandre Picard $800,000
Chris Campoli $633,333
GOALTENDERS
Pascal Leclaire $3,800,000
Brian Elliott $850,000
BUYOUTS
Ray Emery$229,167
Daniel Alfredsson$700,000
LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS
NONE
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE24
SALARY CAP$56,800,000
PAYROLL$58,636,333
BONUSES$490,000
CAP SPACE$-1,346,333






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BigRig

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Flo The Action wrote:this is with the 8th D-man under contract though.

PLAYERBONUSCAP HIT
2009-2010 Ottawa Senators
FORWARDS
Jason Spezza $7,000,000
Alexei Kovalev $5,000,000
Daniel Alfredsson $4,875,000
* milan michalek $4,333,000
Mike Fisher $4,200,000
Chris Kelly $2,125,000
Chris Neil $2,000,000
Jarkko Ruutu $1,300,000
Nick Foligno ($65,000)$850,000
Shean Donovan $625,000
Peter Regin $607,500
Ryan Shannon $600,000
Jesse Winchester $550,000
DEFENSEMEN
Filip Kuba $3,700,000
Chris Phillips $3,500,000
* Christian Ehrhoff $3,100,000
Jason Smith $2,600,000
Anton Volchenkov $2,500,000
Brian Lee ($425,000)$1,275,000
Christoph Schubert $883,333
Alexandre Picard $800,000
Chris Campoli $633,333
GOALTENDERS
Pascal Leclaire $3,800,000
Brian Elliott $850,000
BUYOUTS
Ray Emery$229,167
Daniel Alfredsson$700,000
LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS
NONE
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE24
SALARY CAP$56,800,000
PAYROLL$58,636,333
BONUSES$490,000
CAP SPACE$-1,346,333






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BigRig77 wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:this is with the 8th D-man under contract though.

PLAYERBONUSCAP HIT
2009-2010 Ottawa Senators
FORWARDS
Jason Spezza $7,000,000
Alexei Kovalev $5,000,000
Daniel Alfredsson $4,875,000
* milan michalek $4,333,000
Mike Fisher $4,200,000
Chris Kelly $2,125,000
Chris Neil $2,000,000
Jarkko Ruutu $1,300,000
Nick Foligno ($65,000)$850,000
Shean Donovan $625,000
Peter Regin $607,500
Ryan Shannon $600,000
Jesse Winchester $550,000
DEFENSEMEN
Filip Kuba $3,700,000
Chris Phillips $3,500,000
* Christian Ehrhoff $3,100,000
Jason Smith $2,600,000
Anton Volchenkov $2,500,000
Brian Lee ($425,000)$1,275,000
Christoph Schubert $883,333
Alexandre Picard $800,000
Chris Campoli $633,333
GOALTENDERS
Pascal Leclaire $3,800,000
Brian Elliott $850,000
BUYOUTS
Ray Emery$229,167
Daniel Alfredsson$700,000
LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS
NONE
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE24
SALARY CAP$56,800,000
PAYROLL$58,636,333
BONUSES$490,000
CAP SPACE$-1,346,333






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yeah that's what it spells out to me too. then we could trade/waive/buyout shubert and/or picard and be able to affoard both lee and karlsson to be up.

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BigRig77 wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:this is with the 8th D-man under contract though.

PLAYERBONUSCAP HIT
2009-2010 Ottawa Senators
FORWARDS
Jason Spezza $7,000,000
Alexei Kovalev $5,000,000
Daniel Alfredsson $4,875,000
* milan michalek $4,333,000
Mike Fisher $4,200,000
Chris Kelly $2,125,000
Chris Neil $2,000,000
Jarkko Ruutu $1,300,000
Nick Foligno ($65,000)$850,000
Shean Donovan $625,000
Peter Regin $607,500
Ryan Shannon $600,000
Jesse Winchester $550,000
DEFENSEMEN
Filip Kuba $3,700,000
Chris Phillips $3,500,000
* Christian Ehrhoff $3,100,000
Jason Smith $2,600,000
Anton Volchenkov $2,500,000
Brian Lee ($425,000)$1,275,000
Christoph Schubert $883,333
Alexandre Picard $800,000
Chris Campoli $633,333
GOALTENDERS
Pascal Leclaire $3,800,000
Brian Elliott $850,000
BUYOUTS
Ray Emery$229,167
Daniel Alfredsson$700,000
LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS
NONE
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE24
SALARY CAP$56,800,000
PAYROLL$58,636,333
BONUSES$490,000
CAP SPACE$-1,346,333

Conclusion: Nice working with you Mr. Smith .....


I don't know BigRig, I would rather have:

PLAYERBONUSCAP HIT
2009-2010 Ottawa Senators
FORWARDS
Dany Heatley $7,500,000
Jason Spezza $7,000,000
Alexei Kovalev $5,000,000
Daniel Alfredsson $4,875,000
Mike Fisher $4,200,000
Chris Kelly $2,125,000
Chris Neil $2,000,000
Jarkko Ruutu $1,300,000
Nick Foligno ($65,000)$850,000
Shean Donovan $625,000
Peter Regin $607,500
Ryan Shannon $600,000
Jesse Winchester $550,000
DEFENSEMEN
Filip Kuba $3,700,000
Chris Phillips $3,500,000
Jason Smith $2,600,000
Anton Volchenkov $2,500,000
Christoph Schubert $883,333
Alexandre Picard $800,000
Chris Campoli $633,333
GOALTENDERS
Pascal Leclaire $3,800,000
Brian Elliott $850,000
BUYOUTS
Ray Emery$229,167
Daniel Alfredsson$700,000
LOST VIA REENTRY WAIVERS
NONE
CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE22
SALARY CAP$56,800,000
PAYROLL$57,428,333
BONUSES$65,000
CAP SPACE$-563,333
Yes, this is exactly as we sit right now.

See you in January Mr. Smith.. Now get yourself ready for the playoffs now that you are off LTIR and we can fit you under the cap.

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Flo The Action wrote:i agree that they have to make room but it not have to be with us and right now.
depending on who we get back if it's michalek 4.333.333 and ehrhoff 3.1, we're not far(less then 100.000) from heatleys 7.5.

to be honest it's us that will have to make room.
A salary for salary trade with Ottawa only makes sense if they are able to dump other salary elsewhere (ie: Montreal) to make room or fill in their roster.

I don't think Murray wants a salary for salary trade as we need to make some room too...

No idea how this is going to happen... very curious.

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this from TFP:

Gainey looking to trade, but rumors don't add up
TheFourthPeriod.com


Canadiens GM Bob Gainey would love to pull the trigger on another trade to bolster his lineup, but as the Montreal Gazette reports, he isn't about to make a move that doesn't make sense.
The Canadiens have been linked to a three-way trade between the San Jose Sharks and Ottawa Senators.
The deal would see the Habs receive center Patrick Marleau, the Sharks receive sniper Dany Heatley, and the Senators acquire center Tomas Plekanec and goalie Jaroslav Halak or defenseman Roman Hamrlik.
While the move certainly helps the Sharks, gives the Canadiens another solid centerman and provides the Senators with some quality depth, all three teams are up against the salary cap and the Gazette points out the move puts the Habs back up against it.
In fact, Sharks GM Doug Murray told the Ottawa Citizen that Montreal's involvement in a trade was news to him.
"Don't know what the rumor is, but nothing new that I am aware of," he said.
The Gazette indicates Gainey has left the door open for another major trade, having already acquired center Scott Gomez earlier in the summer.
But as of now, a source said a deal isn't imminent, and one involving the Sharks and Senators in a three-way swap does not appear likely.

i like halak but in no way do we need him! if we get hamrlik and plekanek this will be by far one of the worst scenarios. an overpriced D-man and a ok center with one year remaining on his contract.

NO WAY!

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Guest wrote:CAPGEEK.COM TOTALS
ROSTER SIZE 22
SALARY CAP $56,800,000
PAYROLL $57,428,333
BONUSES $65,000
CAP SPACE $-563,333

Yes, this is exactly as we sit right now.

See you in January Mr. Smith.. Now get yourself ready for the playoffs now that you are off LTIR and we can fit you under the cap.
We're still over the cap in that scenario though... we could send Regin to Bingo (he's on a two-way after all) and we'd start the season with a 21-man roster having Schubert be the extra at both ends... and we'd be under the cap.

Brennan: Heatley will be a Shark "in the next two days." - Page 2 Iadiiaacb

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The more I watch Hamrlik, the more I appreciate him. He had a horrible year last year, but he's pretty solid. That said, 5.5 is a fair chunk of change.

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SpezDispenser wrote:The more I watch Hamrlik, the more I appreciate him. He had a horrible year last year, but he's pretty solid. That said, 5.5 is a fair chunk of change.

if it was hamrlik at 3.8 plus a top 6 foward + prospect/1st, yeah maybe. but it's hamrlik at 5.5 or halak(which we don't need) and 1 year of plekanek... am i missing something?

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We'll see what happens here. Brennan has def gone out on a limb stating this as fact, I hope it's true.

Don't care if San Jose is anywhere near getting below the cap personally, haha, not my problem.

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the closer this gets to being done, the more nervous I get. I don't like the rumoured SJ names, I didn't like from day 1 and I don't like the rumoured Mtl involvement either because I'm not interested in whatever they're giving.

As for the Rangers if Murray can land us Staal + then this has been worth the wait but I doubt it

http://sens19-hockeytalk.blogspot.com/

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Flo The Action wrote:
if it was hamrlik at 3.8 plus a top 6 foward + prospect/1st, yeah maybe. but it's hamrlik at 5.5 or halak(which we don't need) and 1 year of plekanek... am i missing something?

I personally think there's more to it. Like Halak and Plekanek to San Jose immediately for Michalek. However, we would need another team to absorb the difference in salary and get us back under the cap.

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