Pascal Leclaire - The Numbers

I wouldn't restrict it to Crosby: I recall one game where Malkin made a pretty nice move (although guys like Kovalev, Datsyuk, Spezza etc have done it as well), and McGuire's like "Malkin's changing the parameters of the game."



I try to avoid or mute most games with Ovechkin, Ryan Ellis, or Phaneuf in them as well.

asq2 wrote:I wouldn't restrict it to Crosby: I recall one game where Malkin made a pretty nice move (although guys like Kovalev, Datsyuk, Spezza etc have done it as well), and McGuire's like "Malkin's changing the parameters of the game."



I try to avoid or mute most games with Ovechkin, Ryan Ellis, or Phaneuf in them as well.

One of the dumbest comments I've ever heard. I think he's smart enough to have said it and then winced.

Ever noticed how many times McGuire refers to his coaching career? Like he says, "I remember when I coached (insert star here)"? or..."I remember when I was with Scotty (or Mario) in Pittsburgh"...

McGuire lives the legend in his own mind.

Just imagine, if he didn't resort to that kind of self-aggrandizing fluff, he could have become a very good commentator.

asq2 wrote:I wouldn't restrict it to Crosby: I recall one game where Malkin made a pretty nice move (although guys like Kovalev, Datsyuk, Spezza etc have done it as well), and McGuire's like "Malkin's changing the parameters of the game."



I try to avoid or mute most games with Ovechkin, Ryan Ellis, or Phaneuf in them as well.

The parameters of the game, McGuire, you are a butthead, plain and simple.

davetherave wrote:Ever noticed how many times McGuire refers to his coaching career? Like he says, "I remember when I coached (insert star here)"? or..."I remember when I was with Scotty (or Mario) in Pittsburgh"...

McGuire lives the legend in his own mind.

Just imagine, if he didn't resort to that kind of self-aggrandizing fluff, he could have become a very good commentator.

There has been two whole threads on this site alone devoted to slamming McGuire. Mission accomplished. Other sites are posting similar threads.

Guess what boys, you're playing his game. You are talking about Pierre McGuire. You are casting attention to him and to TSN more effectively than nude pictures of Alyssa Milano blowing MacAuley Culkin on stage during a Metalica concert.

Of course he's creating a sensation, saying some over the top diatribe. He's advertising, people. He just sold you that $3,000 vaccuum

SensFan71 wrote:

asq2 wrote:I wouldn't restrict it to Crosby: I recall one game where Malkin made a pretty nice move (although guys like Kovalev, Datsyuk, Spezza etc have done it as well), and McGuire's like "Malkin's changing the parameters of the game."



I try to avoid or mute most games with Ovechkin, Ryan Ellis, or Phaneuf in them as well.

The parameters of the game, McGuire, you are a butthead, plain and simple.

But I bet you don't SF71, in fear of missing another comment that makes you react

While I won't go out on a limb like Chris Boyle and predict that the Sens are stuck with another worthless $4M player, I can say two things with fairly high confidence:

1. Pascal Leclaire has done next to nothing to deserve his $4M contract; by the same token, he has done nothing to deserve either Boyle's disdain or Pierre's praise.

2. Boyle needs to take a few lessons on grammar, or stop "writing". Reading that was very painful for me.

I believe Leclaire will come out next year and quietly put up some very respectable number, allowing us to be competitive again. I few more changes, and IMO we are back to where we were a few years ago

beedub wrote:I believe Leclaire will come out next year and quietly put up some very respectable number, allowing us to be competitive again. I few more changes, and IMO we are back to where we were a few years ago

Can I get an "Amen!" ?

Man, I sure hope you're right. I've said a few times that this is not a deal I would make because of the inherent risk. But if he remains healthy and lives up to his 1st round selection, and if Regin steps in a takes over as the face off specialist and comes close to reproducing Vermette's offensive numbers, then this could be a heck of a steal for BM.

Well said Wprager.

So much of this teams success lies in so many factors going right. Should one of them (whether LeClair, or the confidence shown in Regin or Kuba) derail, this team could potentially spiral out of control again; but by the same token, if LeClair remains healthy and is a beast, and Kuba improves and Regin develops MUCH better than ANYONE anticipated (to simply name a few) this team could literally blow a LOT of fans and others away next year and for a few seasons more.

We could well be under the radar for most of the season. All the talk in the East will focus on Brodeur's come back and assault on the record book, Ovie vs. Crosby, Sather's death watch, the Habs rebuild, Toronto's climb back to respectability, and so on. No-one will remember little ol' Ottawa, especially assuming we don't do something stupid like go 15-2 out the gate. Leclaire just might be the only story the scribes will keep a tab on, so I hope he doesn't do something silly like get a bunch of shutouts.

God forbid he does Wp... That would just SUCK!!

beedub wrote:I believe Leclaire will come out next year and quietly put up some very respectable number, allowing us to be competitive again. I few more changes, and IMO we are back to where we were a few years ago

Yeah man, I think so too (or perhaps I hope). Still need a number one D-man, but I doubt we're gonna get that. Leclaire has the ability to make our D look better than they actually are though...so maybe he's the number one. Can he run a PP?

I'd be curious to see how many assists, if any, he has?! LOL

Cronie wrote:I'd be curious to see how many assists, if any, he has?! LOL

if he can control the rebounds to hit out to the blue line, then the assists will come, assuming that rebound goes to campoli and he carries it the length of the ice like he has shown he can.

ah-ha! Good point SF. I so hope this kid pans out.

beedub wrote:Somehow, I am assuming that Bryan Murray did not pull off that trade based on the recommendations of one Pierre McGuire. I do believe he has in his employ a professional scout or two (perhaps even dare to say... a team of them) who know their scouting business a little better than McGuire who recommended to Murray to trade for him.

Come off it. McGuire likes making the occassional outlandish statement. He's a media guy. If he spoke in a dry monotone and didn't make any bold predictions, who'd watch him. How long would he last on TSN. Say the samething for Torts when he was there, or Milbury.... Calling him an Donkey monkey....for those who call him that, I am willing to make a wager that his salary is close to quadruple what you make. Who is the Donkey monkey now?

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Thanks beedub. This was EXACTLY what I was going to say. And you know what else? They LOVE when the general public stirs the pot like this too and drive them crazy, because it just gives them that much more attention.

Media people are encouraged to make outlandish statements because that's what attracts people.

You nailed it right on the head.

This article is a purely statistical and very subjective analysis. The author has extrapolated the Sens goaltenders best years, then brushes off Leclaire's best season with what seems to be nothing more than "it's about time, but you still suck".

Aside from the bias, McGuire may have jumped the gun but if he did it was most likely based on McGuire's observations of how Leclaire played, not on an arbitrary collection of statistics that don't include Leclaire's performance for team Canada.

It's easy to spin stats. "After the season, Leclaire helped Canada win a silver medal at the
world championships, going 4-0 with a 2.00 GAA and a shutout in four
contests." Well Cam Ward let in 12 goals in his 5 games. I guess that means Leclaire is better than Ward.

On another note I found this interesting game log...

Oct. 18 9:12 AM PT10:12 AM MT11:12 AM CT12:12 PM ET5:12 PM GMT1:12 AM 北京时间-Leclaire
stopped a hard shot with the palm side of his blocker with just over 5
minutes left in Friday's 5-3 win over Nashville. He then left the ice
in pain while holding out his bare right hand.
Analysis: The club said Leclaire (2-2-0, 4.00 GAA) didn't break any bones, just bruised a thumb.