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Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I also don't think Duchene does better than $8.5M tops on the open market given that he's 28. The deal Ottawa is presenting him is the best deal he is going to get. Unless it's not lockout protected. Then he can do better if he can get guaranteed money in the lock-out. What Ottawa should do is provide 50% of his salary as a guarantee in the lockout year as a bonus for that year.

But it seems with Duchene it's not about the money. He's close to home which is a huge factor for him. This all makes me think he knows more about Ottawa's "plans" than we do and he doesn't like what he's hearing.

I've been trying to guess what Ottawa's roster could look like next season. I think it will be equally bad. I don't blame Duchene or Stone for wanting to walk. I don't necessarily blame Dorion either.

It entirely depends on who is still here. If Stone and Duchene are, and we get better goaltending, then we will be better. Batherson and Brown will be on the team. If Stone and Duchene are not, then we will be finishing at the bottom to try to get Lafreniere.

Anderson needs to be moved or transitioned to backup as he can't handle it anymore and IMO is one of the big reasons we are at the bottom

Hard to tell with Anderson but I agree that he should be moved. He’s not part of the rebuild, let’s grt something in return. He might have a good playoff run in him left so let him try it with a contender.
I still tho k we finish near the bottom next year even with stone and Duchene. We might score often but there’s not really any help coming from the backend.

Guys like chabot lajoie Jaros and Wolanin would be better just with an extra year of maturity and summer of growth. Most d start off pretty poorly in the league.

Lagoon wrote:

Ev wrote:It entirely depends on who is still here. If Stone and Duchene are, and we get better goaltending, then we will be better. Batherson and Brown will be on the team. If Stone and Duchene are not, then we will be finishing at the bottom to try to get Lafreniere.

Anderson needs to be moved or transitioned to backup as he can't handle it anymore and IMO is one of the big reasons we are at the bottom

I don’t care what Lafreniere is wrecking in the Q right now, I still see Byfield as the 2020 1st overall.

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I also don't think Duchene does better than $8.5M tops on the open market given that he's 28. The deal Ottawa is presenting him is the best deal he is going to get. Unless it's not lockout protected. Then he can do better if he can get guaranteed money in the lock-out. What Ottawa should do is provide 50% of his salary as a guarantee in the lockout year as a bonus for that year.

But it seems with Duchene it's not about the money. He's close to home which is a huge factor for him. This all makes me think he knows more about Ottawa's "plans" than we do and he doesn't like what he's hearing.

I've been trying to guess what Ottawa's roster could look like next season. I think it will be equally bad. I don't blame Duchene or Stone for wanting to walk. I don't necessarily blame Dorion either.

It entirely depends on who is still here. If Stone and Duchene are, and we get better goaltending, then we will be better. Batherson and Brown will be on the team. If Stone and Duchene are not, then we will be finishing at the bottom to try to get Lafreniere.

Anderson needs to be moved or transitioned to backup as he can't handle it anymore and IMO is one of the big reasons we are at the bottom

Hard to tell with Anderson but I agree that he should be moved. He’s not part of the rebuild, let’s grt something in return. He might have a good playoff run in him left so let him try it with a contender.
I still tho k we finish near the bottom next year even with stone and Duchene. We might score often but there’s not really any help coming from the backend.

Guys like chabot lajoie Jaros and Wolanin would be better just with an extra year of maturity and summer of growth. Most d start off pretty poorly in the league.

fait enough, but i still dont see top pairing guys in those(apart from chabot). i think their ceiling is 2nd pairing. i'm not an amzing analyst of talent but i want to keep in mind that maybe one or two of them might be a bottom pairing guy at best

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Our defense should look something like this next season:

Chabot-Hamilton
Wolanin-De Melo
Lajoie-Jaros
Boro

I'd look into moving Harpur or carrying him as the 8th d-man while giving JBD and Tychonik another year to develop. I'd look into moving Boro also if there is a team willing to take him. But that might be a deadline move for next spring.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Our defense should look something like this next season:

Chabot-Hamilton
Wolanin-De Melo
Lajoie-Jaros
Boro

I'd look into moving Harpur or carrying him as the 8th d-man while giving JBD and Tychonik another year to develop. I'd look into moving Boro also if there is a team willing to take him. But that might be a deadline move for next spring.

Flo The Action wrote:

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Our defense should look something like this next season:

Chabot-Hamilton
Wolanin-De Melo
Lajoie-Jaros
Boro

I'd look into moving Harpur or carrying him as the 8th d-man while giving JBD and Tychonik another year to develop. I'd look into moving Boro also if there is a team willing to take him. But that might be a deadline move for next spring.

There sure are enough museums in Ottawa.

But seriously, the cost to acquire him and the timeline of our rebuild tells me this doesn’t make sense. Plus he doesn’t seem to stick anywhere which you have to admit is a bit of a red flag.

One possibility that I’ve contemplated is a Stone deal to Calgary with Hanafin as part of the return.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I don't see Calgary moving Hanafin.  I think the Flames are interested in Stone purely as a rental.

DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I don't see Calgary moving Hanafin.  I think the Flames are interested in Stone purely as a rental.

I heard this as well.

I imagine the Isles are probably interested in Duchene and could have a lot of interesting pieces to offer.

Ev wrote:I can't see Isles for Duchene. They are just starting a rebuild and they are not very attractive for UFAs IMO. They play in a horrible location/arena right now.

I'm leaning towards Duchene re-signing right now.

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I agree.  They have money to spend and with a couple key pieces at the deadline and during free agency they're far from a rebuild.

Ev wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I agree.  They have money to spend and with a couple key pieces at the deadline and during free agency they're far from a rebuild.

The day Tavares left was the first day of their rebuild. Rebuild doesn’t mean you have to suck every year. I can’t see them landing many top players, they never have in their existence just like the sens

Flo The Action wrote:

Ev wrote:

Cap'n Clutch wrote:I agree.  They have money to spend and with a couple key pieces at the deadline and during free agency they're far from a rebuild.

The day Tavares left was the first day of their rebuild. Rebuild doesn’t mean you have to suck every year. I can’t see them landing many top players, they never have in their existence just like the sens

I disagree. Had you did not have Barzal maybe so. But he’s shown he can pick up this team and go. If they ad a mat duchene this summer they might even get better

They’re not done after all but....closer