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5712017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Sun Jul 23, 2017 9:33 am

wprager


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How much longer to October?

5722017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Sun Jul 23, 2017 11:40 am

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wprager wrote:How much longer to October?
Enjoy the summer (when it's not raining)

5732017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Sun Jul 23, 2017 2:27 pm

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Hard to enjoy it. No grass so no backyard. Construction vehicles clogging up the street and the ears. New job, working on contact, so time off means no pay. Daughter taking summer school so no sleeping in. Were planning on getting a puppy in August but nature is taking her time and it won't arrive until after the kids are back in school.

5742017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Sun Jul 23, 2017 7:52 pm

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wprager wrote:I don't see how this is a "great deal" for the Sens.  He faded in the second half and was scratched a few times in the playoffs.  if CMac is back then Dzingle is a third-liner and he's not scoring anywhere near 15/30.  If he got the $1.5M through arbitration then was a third-liner getting 7/15, without killing penalties, taking draws or hitting/blocking, no way would we be talking about a $2M extension.

I consider his upside (offense) to be that of Zack Smith (excluding his "breakout" two years ago). In other words 10-15 goals, another 15-25 assists.  Smith was making $1.8875M on his second contract, and he hit, killed penalties and took draws.  Still think, even with adjusting for cap increases, that $1.5M is what he'd be worth.

All that said, I'm glad they avoided arbitration.
What exactly do you expect to pay a 3rd line player ?  One thing your stats fail to show is what his speed does for the others on the ice, which is open up ice for his line mates.  He has an elite skill that is sorely missing in the lineup and is extremely valuable to this team in particular.

5752017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Sun Jul 23, 2017 8:40 pm

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One skill - one million.


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5762017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:30 am

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Sens sign Johnny Oduya to a one-year deal worth $1M.

He's 35 and is coming off one of his worst seasons...hopefully he still has something left in the tank. There's our depth D I guess.

5772017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:33 am

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Beat me to it!! Love this signing!


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5782017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:36 am

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For a little bit of D depth and experience for 1M it's a solid signing. If he's healthy and effective it slots everyone in where they should be and if he performs well then he's worth the bonuses they've built into his deal IMO.

Very low risk on this one IMO.


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5792017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:38 am

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I'm not sure there's anything to love about this signing, but it's an extremely low-risk move. It does give us a lot of NHL-capable d-men though.

5802017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 9:59 am

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He can earn another $1.25M in bonuses.

Three Swedes on the back end.  Englund could make it 4.


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5812017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 10:23 am

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Nice signing. At worst he's a depth player who is scratched, at best he's a guy with a cup ring who can provide some veteran assurance while Chabot seasons.

5822017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 11:10 am

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Trade coming for sure.

5832017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:10 pm

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Ev wrote:Trade coming for sure.

A definite possibility (especially in light of what he said on TSN1200 -- that he's still looking to improve up-front), but I would not be comfortable saying "for sure".

Incidentally, if there is a trade and Oduya plays as EK's main partner, he definitely hits most if not all of the bonuses. So who could his $2.25M replace under the cap?


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5842017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 1:26 pm

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I wanted oduya a few years ago. Hard to say how good he will be or where he will play. It I think he could still move up and down the pairings and play a good role on this team. Gives us even more depth but I don't know if this means a trade is coming. If it did then I'd imagine we'd be packaging a young D with other parts for some upgrade up front

5852017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:01 pm

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I too agree that a trade is coming. The addition of Oduya pushes Boro or Claesson to a healthy scratch and cements Chabot down to the minors.

My concern here is Oduya is slow - really slow. Which is the argument that we shouldn't be getting Jagr who can still produce. So I am not sure where they expect to see Oduya play. If it's with Karlsson we're in trouble.

5862017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 3:27 pm

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I too agree that a trade is coming. The addition of Oduya pushes Boro or Claesson to a healthy scratch and cements Chabot down to the minors.

My concern here is Oduya is slow - really slow. Which is the argument that we shouldn't be getting Jagr who can still produce. So I am not sure where they expect to see Oduya play. If it's with Karlsson we're in trouble.

I also think Dorion moves away from Duchene and Landeskog and focuses elsewhere.

An interesting move would be to see whether Giroux would be available out of Philly. With Bobby Ryan having had an amazing post-season and being raised just outside Philly, there may not be a better time for Ottawa to try to move him. Giroux carries a higher cap hit but is on a declining salary. Ryan has an extra year on his contract.

Philly has had a quiet off-season so far and seem destined to finish within the bottom of the Metropolitan. I am not sure what it would take and this is purely speculation but Giroux is linked to Ottawa on a personal basis and Ryan to Philly on a personal basis....

5872017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:12 pm

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wprager wrote:One skill - one million.
Nobody makes that little.  This isn't 5 years ago, the average NHL salary is over 3M.

5882017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 39 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 24, 2017 5:15 pm

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I too agree that a trade is coming. The addition of Oduya pushes Boro or Claesson to a healthy scratch and cements Chabot down to the minors.

My concern here is Oduya is slow - really slow. Which is the argument that we shouldn't be getting Jagr who can still produce. So I am not sure where they expect to see Oduya play. If it's with Karlsson we're in trouble.

I also think Dorion moves away from Duchene and Landeskog and focuses elsewhere.

An interesting move would be to see whether Giroux would be available out of Philly. With Bobby Ryan having had an amazing post-season and being raised just outside Philly, there may not be a better time for Ottawa to try to move him. Giroux carries a higher cap hit but is on a declining salary. Ryan has an extra year on his contract.

Philly has had a quiet off-season so far and seem destined to finish within the bottom of the Metropolitan. I am not sure what it would take and this is purely speculation but Giroux is linked to Ottawa on a personal basis and Ryan to Philly on a personal basis....

Declining contract for a declining player. He might not outproeuce Ryan.

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