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5112017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 17, 2017 3:03 pm

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It's a bit more than I thought too but I am happy it didn't go to arbitration. Nice to see them settle on something versus going to an ugly process.

5122017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 17, 2017 7:07 pm

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Hale the Villain on hfboarfs has to be the biggest loser poster I've ever seen. Literally says every deal or signing sucks. What a depressing person

5132017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 17, 2017 8:25 pm

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Dzingel left. Wonder how tightly to the wire it will go. I doubt it goes to arbitration.

5142017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:19 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:Pageau signs for 3 years av of 3.1 mill.

Nice cap hit, would have preferred a longer deal but ok

That was a touch more than I thought we'd pay Pageau, but close enough.

Is it? I know he was an rfa but when I compare what we gave to smith, I feel Pageau is more useful a player. Plus he's still has untapped potential

5152017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:20 pm

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wprager wrote:Dzingel left.  Wonder how tightly to the wire it will go.  I doubt it goes to arbitration.
Will get around a one year 1.5 mill deal to prove himself

5162017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Mon Jul 17, 2017 9:53 pm

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Good idea. If he, really, is the one that gave Dorion a hard exit interview (after being benched for half the playoffs) then 1 year to put up (numbers) or shut up.


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5172017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:13 am

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Flo The Action wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:Pageau signs for 3 years av of 3.1 mill.

Nice cap hit, would have preferred a longer deal but ok

That was a touch more than I thought we'd pay Pageau, but close enough.

Is it? I know he was an rfa but when I compare what we gave to smith, I feel Pageau is more useful a player. Plus he's still has untapped potential

I don't feel there's much "untapped potential" left in Pageau, but I'm fine with him as is. Can't really ask for more from a guy that has great work ethic and is ultra-competitive. After looking at some comparables on Cap Friendly, this is pretty much exactly what his contract should've ended up being, so that's great.

5182017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:19 am

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Ev wrote:Hale the Villain on hfboarfs has to be the biggest loser poster I've ever seen. Literally says every deal or signing sucks. What a depressing person

I can't stand that place. Once in a while I go there because people aren't posting here, but damn...that place is full of idiots and trolls for the most part.

There's a few great posters though. BondraTime is probably my favourite poster anywhere. Great insights into prospects and he actually watches them, so it's not BS.

5192017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:20 am

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I personally don't love the Pageau signing, just because it leads him right to UFA. I love the player, he's a guy you win a championship with as a 3C, I would have loved to lock him up for 5, 6 or longer years.

5202017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:23 am

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PTFlea wrote:
Ev wrote:Hale the Villain on hfboarfs has to be the biggest loser poster I've ever seen. Literally says every deal or signing sucks. What a depressing person

I can't stand that place.  Once in a while I go there because people aren't posting here, but damn...that place is full of idiots and trolls for the most part.

There's a few great posters though.  BondraTime is probably my favourite poster anywhere.  Great insights into prospects and he actually watches them, so it's not BS.

Try to get him over here? It's been such a quiet summer on here.

5212017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:27 am

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
PTFlea wrote:
Ev wrote:Hale the Villain on hfboarfs has to be the biggest loser poster I've ever seen. Literally says every deal or signing sucks. What a depressing person

I can't stand that place.  Once in a while I go there because people aren't posting here, but damn...that place is full of idiots and trolls for the most part.

There's a few great posters though.  BondraTime is probably my favourite poster anywhere.  Great insights into prospects and he actually watches them, so it's not BS.

Try to get him over here? It's been such a quiet summer on here.

I doubt he would, he posts there quite frequently.

5222017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 10:29 am

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I like the deal for its brevity to be honest. Everyone's contracts seem to end in 2-3 years from now so it allows Dorion to really prioritize his signings when contracts are due. And honestly, Karlsson is going to make $10-12M per year if he re-ups here so if we want to keep him you can't extend these guys out for too long. You need to free up cap space and cash flow.

But I do see Turris signing a 5 x $5.75M contract extension by the end of the summer, and Stone to something similar. I imagine by this time next year Phaneuf will have been traded as I fully expect Chabot and Claesson to be full-time top-four d-men by season's end and one of Englund, Jaros, and Harpur to push for that 5-6 LD spot the season after.

5232017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:13 am

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tim1_2 wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
tim1_2 wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:Pageau signs for 3 years av of 3.1 mill.

Nice cap hit, would have preferred a longer deal but ok

That was a touch more than I thought we'd pay Pageau, but close enough.

Is it? I know he was an rfa but when I compare what we gave to smith, I feel Pageau is more useful a player. Plus he's still has untapped potential

I don't feel there's much "untapped potential" left in Pageau, but I'm fine with him as is.  Can't really ask for more from a guy that has great work ethic and is ultra-competitive.  After looking at some comparables on Cap Friendly, this is pretty much exactly what his contract should've ended up being, so that's great.
That would have been my reasoning before. But we've seen how he can fit in the top 6 and he hasn't been put in a position to succeed at higher levels on a regular basis. To me he might wind up being the Vermette type player. Everybody though he was a 3rd liner until he showed he was capable of playing and scoring on the top 2 lines. Not a first line player unless they are stuck but could elevate his offensive agame beyond what we see. Well, maybe closer to what he has shown he can do in the playoffs.

5242017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:16 am

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PTFlea wrote:I personally don't love the Pageau signing, just because it leads him right to UFA.  I love the player, he's a guy you win a championship with as a 3C, I would have loved to lock him up for 5, 6 or longer years.


Yeah my feelings too. Wish it was for 5-6 years but I have a feeling it's Pageau that wants it shorter so he can prove that he's more than a 3rd liner. But I agree, good third line C on a competitive team.
I don't fear him taking off in 3 years but he'll want to be paid what he's worth.
I hope we can extend both Turris and stone this summer, especially Turris. I'd rather we don't drag any contract negotiations for too long.

5252017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:17 am

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I just heard a rumor that Jagr was spotted at the Ottawa airport. No reliable source. Just hearsay.

5262017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 11:36 am

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Karlsson is going to make $10-12M per year  

Karlsson will make a minimum of $12M/year, whether it's here or elsewhere.

5272017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 12:08 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:Karlsson is going to make $10-12M per year  

Karlsson will make a minimum of $12M/year, whether it's here or elsewhere.  

I disagree. I think he takes a discount at $10-11 to stay here.

5282017 Sens Off-Season  - Page 35 Empty Re: 2017 Sens Off-Season Tue Jul 18, 2017 1:33 pm

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:I just heard a rumor that Jagr was spotted at the Ottawa airport. No reliable source. Just hearsay.
That would be swell. Ain't it's not like you transfer to go anywhere from the Ottawa airport 😂

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