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Right.

When though?   5 games at the end if the season?  we need help if that's the case.

PTFlea wrote:When though?   5 games at the end if the season?  we need help if that's the case.

Hate to turn all EvTurris on you, but check the standings. 3 points up on Boston and Tampa (game in hand on Tampa) and just 3 back of the Habs.

And Stone/Hoffman are heating up as is the power play.

The only kind of trade that makes sense right now is exactly what Dorion described he's trying to do...a smaller deal for a depth winger. There's too many factors right now in play to come up with a bigger trade scenario that makes sense, especially considering the expansion draft. Taking on a quality player right now is one more guy to worry about protecting this summer. If we look like a legit contender come February, yeah, maybe it makes sense to add a bigger name or two that we could very well leave unprotected, but right now, it doesn't make sense.

Also, there's the budget issue. If the Sens were to deal prospects/picks for a big salary right now, I'm not sure The Euge would go for that given attendance this year.

Then, what do we trade for a big name winger? Most teams that would part with a good winger are likely looking for defense, and the only quality guys we would likely be willing to trade (and they'd want to take) would be Ceci or Methot. Methot's injured, and I'm not sure we really want to trade EK's partner, and then Ceci's value is likely pretty low right now....

wprager wrote:

PTFlea wrote:When though?   5 games at the end if the season?  we need help if that's the case.

Hate to turn all EvTurris on you, but check the standings.  3 points up on Boston and Tampa (game in hand on Tampa) and just 3 back of the Habs.  

And Stone/Hoffman are heating up as is the power play.

They are now, but that's as thin a top 6 as we've had in a long time. As long as Hoffman, Stone and Turris don't get hurt, we might get away with having only one real line in the top six, but...that could change in a heartbeat of course.

tim1_2 wrote:The only kind of trade that makes sense right now is exactly what Dorion described he's trying to do...a smaller deal for a depth winger.  There's too many factors right now in play to come up with a bigger trade scenario that makes sense, especially considering the expansion draft.  Taking on a quality player right now is one more guy to worry about protecting this summer.  If we look like a legit contender come February, yeah, maybe it makes sense to add a bigger name or two that we could very well leave unprotected, but right now, it doesn't make sense.

Also, there's the budget issue.  If the Sens were to deal prospects/picks for a big salary right now, I'm not sure The Euge would go for that given attendance this year.  

Then, what do we trade for a big name winger?  Most teams that would part with a good winger are likely looking for defense, and the only quality guys we would likely be willing to trade (and they'd want to take) would be Ceci or Methot.  Methot's injured, and I'm not sure we really want to trade EK's partner, and then Ceci's value is likely pretty low right now....

If he makes a big deal he might actually get attendance up.
So who do we protect in the forward group? Turris, stone, Hoffman, Pageau, brass,  Ryan? If we get another top 6 that leaves dzingel and lazar unprotected and if they pick one of those two instead of method I'm fine with that.

So really is expansion a problem?

So maybe we Actually our 1st, a decent prospect and lazar to make that trade. Depending on who it is. I don't know if I want to trade a top prospect but if a 1st and brown can get you saad you think long and hard about it. Of course you try to involve someone else but for a top line style winger under contract you think long and hard about it.
Edit: I'm using saad as an example. I don't think he's on the market.

Speaking of Brown, I didn't realize he's been injured. Hurt his wrist and been rehabbing it on Ottawa. Guess that's why he hasn't been scoring like he did earlier. But Dorion said he's a lock for making the junior roster, which likely means he or almost ready to come back. Juniors are just three weeks out (camp and prelim games) and he would have to have a few OHL games ahead of that, since he probably won't make it to the evaluation camp, or at least may not do much while there.

kyle turris wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:The only kind of trade that makes sense right now is exactly what Dorion described he's trying to do...a smaller deal for a depth winger.  There's too many factors right now in play to come up with a bigger trade scenario that makes sense, especially considering the expansion draft.  Taking on a quality player right now is one more guy to worry about protecting this summer.  If we look like a legit contender come February, yeah, maybe it makes sense to add a bigger name or two that we could very well leave unprotected, but right now, it doesn't make sense.

Also, there's the budget issue.  If the Sens were to deal prospects/picks for a big salary right now, I'm not sure The Euge would go for that given attendance this year.  

Then, what do we trade for a big name winger?  Most teams that would part with a good winger are likely looking for defense, and the only quality guys we would likely be willing to trade (and they'd want to take) would be Ceci or Methot.  Methot's injured, and I'm not sure we really want to trade EK's partner, and then Ceci's value is likely pretty low right now....

If he makes a big deal he might actually get attendance up.
So who do we protect in the forward group? Turris, stone, Hoffman, Pageau, brass,  Ryan? If we get another top 6 that leaves dzingel and lazar unprotected and if they pick one of those two instead of method I'm fine with that.

So really is expansion a problem?

So maybe we Actually our 1st, a decent prospect and lazar to make that trade. Depending on who it is. I don't know if I want to trade a top prospect but if a 1st and brown can get you saad you think long and hard about it. Of course you try to involve someone else but for a top line style winger under contract you think long and hard about it.
Edit: I'm using saad as an example. I don't think he's on the market.

Oh, I don't think you trade Brown and our 1st for Saad...

Hammond back to Bingo, Anderson will be available in Pittsburgh tomorrow.

PTFlea wrote:

kyle turris wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:The only kind of trade that makes sense right now is exactly what Dorion described he's trying to do...a smaller deal for a depth winger.  There's too many factors right now in play to come up with a bigger trade scenario that makes sense, especially considering the expansion draft.  Taking on a quality player right now is one more guy to worry about protecting this summer.  If we look like a legit contender come February, yeah, maybe it makes sense to add a bigger name or two that we could very well leave unprotected, but right now, it doesn't make sense.

Also, there's the budget issue.  If the Sens were to deal prospects/picks for a big salary right now, I'm not sure The Euge would go for that given attendance this year.  

Then, what do we trade for a big name winger?  Most teams that would part with a good winger are likely looking for defense, and the only quality guys we would likely be willing to trade (and they'd want to take) would be Ceci or Methot.  Methot's injured, and I'm not sure we really want to trade EK's partner, and then Ceci's value is likely pretty low right now....

If he makes a big deal he might actually get attendance up.
So who do we protect in the forward group? Turris, stone, Hoffman, Pageau, brass,  Ryan? If we get another top 6 that leaves dzingel and lazar unprotected and if they pick one of those two instead of method I'm fine with that.

So really is expansion a problem?

So maybe we Actually our 1st, a decent prospect and lazar to make that trade. Depending on who it is. I don't know if I want to trade a top prospect but if a 1st and brown can get you saad you think long and hard about it. Of course you try to involve someone else but for a top line style winger under contract you think long and hard about it.
Edit: I'm using saad as an example. I don't think he's on the market.

Oh, I don't think you trade Brown and our 1st for Saad...

Saad was an example. Is there no wingers that might be available that you wouldn't do our first and brown for? Is brown untouchable?

At one point, even though you have to love our prospects, you have to think long and hard about what actually makes this team better. The core is here to win now. Not in 4-5 years when brown will likely be at the top of his game.

Hammond back to Bingo. Anderson is back with the team.

kyle turris wrote:

PTFlea wrote:

kyle turris wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:The only kind of trade that makes sense right now is exactly what Dorion described he's trying to do...a smaller deal for a depth winger.  There's too many factors right now in play to come up with a bigger trade scenario that makes sense, especially considering the expansion draft.  Taking on a quality player right now is one more guy to worry about protecting this summer.  If we look like a legit contender come February, yeah, maybe it makes sense to add a bigger name or two that we could very well leave unprotected, but right now, it doesn't make sense.

Also, there's the budget issue.  If the Sens were to deal prospects/picks for a big salary right now, I'm not sure The Euge would go for that given attendance this year.  

Then, what do we trade for a big name winger?  Most teams that would part with a good winger are likely looking for defense, and the only quality guys we would likely be willing to trade (and they'd want to take) would be Ceci or Methot.  Methot's injured, and I'm not sure we really want to trade EK's partner, and then Ceci's value is likely pretty low right now....

If he makes a big deal he might actually get attendance up.
So who do we protect in the forward group? Turris, stone, Hoffman, Pageau, brass,  Ryan? If we get another top 6 that leaves dzingel and lazar unprotected and if they pick one of those two instead of method I'm fine with that.

So really is expansion a problem?

So maybe we Actually our 1st, a decent prospect and lazar to make that trade. Depending on who it is. I don't know if I want to trade a top prospect but if a 1st and brown can get you saad you think long and hard about it. Of course you try to involve someone else but for a top line style winger under contract you think long and hard about it.
Edit: I'm using saad as an example. I don't think he's on the market.

Oh, I don't think you trade Brown and our 1st for Saad...

Saad was an example. Is there no wingers that might be available that you wouldn't do our first and brown for? Is brown untouchable?

At one point, even though you have to love our prospects, you have to think long and hard about what actually makes this team better. The core is here to win now. Not in 4-5 years when brown will likely be at the top of his game.

I hear ya, but I don't know who that is that's worth our top prospect plus our first.  very tough call.

I'm not very patient by nature, but this might be a time to be patient and wait for white, brown and Chabot to come in next year and beyond.

PTFlea wrote:I'm not very patient by nature, but this might be a time to be patient and wait for white, brown and Chabot to come in next year and beyond.

I'm patiently waiting for White to even sign a contract.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

PTFlea wrote:I'm not very patient by nature, but this might be a time to be patient and wait for white, brown and Chabot to come in next year and beyond.

I'm patiently waiting for White to even sign a contract.

True.

Dorion as much as promised him some NHL games this year. If he doesn't sign when his season at BC is over I will be officially worried.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

PTFlea wrote:I'm not very patient by nature, but this might be a time to be patient and wait for white, brown and Chabot to come in next year and beyond.

I'm patiently waiting for White to even sign a contract.

As a college player, you can't sign a pro-contract without relinquishing the NCAA eligibility.  So stop fear mongering everyone here you jerk

We all know that. But Pierre said he would be shocked if White would not be NHL ready this season, so the expectation was he would turn pro. Instead he returned to BC.