DefenceWinsChampionships wrote: Flo The Action wrote: tim1_2 wrote: Flo The Action wrote: tim1_2 wrote: Flo The Action wrote:Mac is the depth they will be adding in the bottom 6. What they need is to add someone in the top 6.
It's freaking obvious, why it's not to them is ridiculous, almost insulting. It's almost as if they are satisfied being an average team. And as the season average will turn into mediocre.
You act as if it's easy to just add a top 6 forward. Also, they can't afford to take on more salary, especially given that they'll be paying Mac soon (I assume he's been covered by insurance). This is still a young team...A little bit of patience is required here. Dorion's not shy to make deals, but he's gotta wait for the right ones. Do you see other teams making a ton of trades right now?
I think it could be easier than it is for us. We do have cap space but we have a cheapskate of an owner that refuses to take on salary. I think he's the biggest imparement to this team. We have a first round pick to move, we have prospects and player. There's starting to be high caliber players available.
The problem is we aren't playing a levelled field because of ownership. We'll likely never win because of this and we haven't yet, but we could be looking to lose karlsson if this is how we operate. Why on earth should he stay with the sens and waste his career when we have an owner that won't put all allowable resources on the table? I won't blame him if he leaves but I'll make sure to voice my opinion before then on the sens platforms of my displeasure and how I will not give them a penny until they change their operations.
As. U have as it sucks for the players maybe not going to games is the only way fans get to express their distaste for how this team is being run.
Listen, I like to trash Eugene as much as anybody here, but there's no reason to suddenly hit the panic button after a loss to the Leafs in January. Like I said, no one is making trades right now. Give it another two months.
This isn't the panic button. This is the sell button for Eugene to press. It's the button that's been painfully obvious he should be pressing for years now. It's also the button that should have been pressed when the org couldn't go through a rebuild because they constantly have to try to make the playoffs to make enough money. We're going to continue to be a mediocre team until financially things change here.
I do not believe that when the time is right to make trades and trades are happening that we will be in on the right ones because of these financial constraints.
This whole dialogue that this team is in win mode now only works if it has the proper backing. I had no problem waiting things out a little longer but this isn't what the org placed itself into doing. It's like we have one foot in and one foot out. And that foot out is handcuffed.
It's hard to really comment on this. I have heard from a friend who is close to some players that the 'cheap' mentality is evident in the locker room and the guys aren't motivated to compete the same way as say the Rangers or Canadiens. That said, the Sens do spend money. They just don't spend it well.
Between Ryan, Phaneuf, and Mac (injured) they have $18.9M tied up in salaries. The way these guys are playing they should be making significantly less. Probably $12M combined. If we want to compare, Zac Smith makes around $1.9M per year. Smith has 18 points. Bobby Ryan has 16 points and makes almost 4 times his salary. In theory, Ryan's output should be at least 2 times that of Smith. If Ryan had 16 goals and 32 points, no one would be complaining. Fact is, he's grossly underperforming and was supposed to be a 30 goal scorer. At this rate, we'll be lucky if he hits 15 by the end of the season.
Defencemen are harder to do this analysis on, and the Phaneuf trade ended up seeing Ottawa shed Greening, Cowen, and Michalek. So while we're overpaying for Phaneuf, it had a trickle-down effect on other areas. It opened up roster spaces, we moved some pretty bad contracts, etc. So while he's overpaid by probably $3M per year, he's allowing us to playing Dzingel, Lazar and Wideman who are much lower than Michalek, Greening and Cowen. So he's worth it in the short-term.
MacArthur (if healthy) would have at least 20 points at this point. Our team would be infinitely better. We'd have 3 really good lines. It's just tough luck that he's played half a dozen games or whatever since he signed his big deal. But it's money tied up right now that I'd have a hard time spending too knowing he's trying to come back.
We also lost Spezza, Heatley, Redden, Chara, and Bishop for nothing. And we lost the Ryan trade. I think this is what really hurt us. Big trade chips and we got nothing back. Trades are how we have to bring in big name players because we are not an attractive place to play. That's why the team tries to bring in local talent. So yes, I think Dorion needs to hit a homerun with a trade (Duchene for Ceci, Lazar and our 1st) but I think Melnyk has reason to be pissed and not want to spend. While people praise what Murray had done for this team, he's really made some bone-head trades over his tenure as GM.
Ottawa is also paying Stone, Smith, Karlsson, Turris, well under market value. So while we can add players, Stone is going to get a huge raise as are Turris and Karlsson when we re-sign them.
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