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496Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:22 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
spader wrote:Sounds like young Mr. Drouin has rescinded his trade request (demand). Now, before everyone gets blamey about that, it doesn't mean that the Sens "missed the boat" or "blew the trade" or whatever. I'm guessing Yzerman knew exactly what he had there and wasn't going to move him unless he was winning the trade.

So, for anyone who thinks that the Sens lost out on a trade or weren't aggressive enough, ask yourself if you'd want to lose on that trade. Imagine sending a 1st, Chabot/White, and Hoffman or something along those lines. I'm guessing the ask wasn't too far from that.
I think the ask was Ceci and a 1st and went down to (Chabot/white), 1st and another moving part. I'm quite ok with keeping Chabot/white and it's too early to say if the first was worth keeping. As for Hoffman it's a bit interesting that no contract has been done so far. Could be traded I guess. I'm afraid the return would be underwhelming   And wouldn't adress his departure.

No one is coming in at $4.5M and scoring 30+ goals so yeah whatever we acquire via trade will be underwhelming. That is unless it is to a team like Colorado who can use the cap savings to help sign someone like Barrie

To Ott: Duchene
To Colorado: Hoffman, White ($ to sign RFA Barrie)
Well, I was a big negative nancy when it came to duschene being traded but I think you are on the right track. I think a D man has to be going the other way though. They are trying to adress that part of their team the most.

They get their defenceman if they can re-sign Barrie. They also have Matthias and Boedker as RFA's which they can use that cap space to sign a d-man or trade their 1st rd pick.

497Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 2:38 pm

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
spader wrote:Sounds like young Mr. Drouin has rescinded his trade request (demand). Now, before everyone gets blamey about that, it doesn't mean that the Sens "missed the boat" or "blew the trade" or whatever. I'm guessing Yzerman knew exactly what he had there and wasn't going to move him unless he was winning the trade.

So, for anyone who thinks that the Sens lost out on a trade or weren't aggressive enough, ask yourself if you'd want to lose on that trade. Imagine sending a 1st, Chabot/White, and Hoffman or something along those lines. I'm guessing the ask wasn't too far from that.
I think the ask was Ceci and a 1st and went down to (Chabot/white), 1st and another moving part. I'm quite ok with keeping Chabot/white and it's too early to say if the first was worth keeping. As for Hoffman it's a bit interesting that no contract has been done so far. Could be traded I guess. I'm afraid the return would be underwhelming   And wouldn't adress his departure.

No one is coming in at $4.5M and scoring 30+ goals so yeah whatever we acquire via trade will be underwhelming. That is unless it is to a team like Colorado who can use the cap savings to help sign someone like Barrie

To Ott: Duchene
To Colorado: Hoffman, White ($ to sign RFA Barrie)
Well, I was a big negative nancy when it came to duschene being traded but I think you are on the right track. I think a D man has to be going the other way though. They are trying to adress that part of their team the most.

They get their defenceman if they can re-sign Barrie. They also have Matthias and Boedker as RFA's which they can use that cap space to sign a d-man or trade their 1st rd pick.
Even with Barrie they still want a top 4 D. Their D is atrocious.
Boedker and Matthias are UFA and Boedker isn't looking like he will resign.

They need to move a good player for a solid D. It can't get much clearer than that. You'd have to include Ceci. Doubt that happens.

498Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:12 pm

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Flo The Action wrote:
spader wrote:Sounds like young Mr. Drouin has rescinded his trade request (demand). Now, before everyone gets blamey about that, it doesn't mean that the Sens "missed the boat" or "blew the trade" or whatever. I'm guessing Yzerman knew exactly what he had there and wasn't going to move him unless he was winning the trade.

So, for anyone who thinks that the Sens lost out on a trade or weren't aggressive enough, ask yourself if you'd want to lose on that trade. Imagine sending a 1st, Chabot/White, and Hoffman or something along those lines. I'm guessing the ask wasn't too far from that.
I think the ask was Ceci and a 1st and went down to (Chabot/white), 1st and another moving part. I'm quite ok with keeping Chabot/white and it's too early to say if the first was worth keeping. As for Hoffman it's a bit interesting that no contract has been done so far. Could be traded I guess. I'm afraid the return would be underwhelming   And wouldn't adress his departure.

No one is coming in at $4.5M and scoring 30+ goals so yeah whatever we acquire via trade will be underwhelming. That is unless it is to a team like Colorado who can use the cap savings to help sign someone like Barrie

To Ott: Duchene
To Colorado: Hoffman, White ($ to sign RFA Barrie)

I'll play devil's advocate here. Why would Colorado trade Duchene to save money and bolster their defence, but take Hoffman who's about to make 4.75-5.5 a year? If anything, they take a lower cap hit - ie Zibanejad and we have to add in the 12thOV (IMO).

499Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:22 pm

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Zibanejad is the logical choice in a swap for Duchene.

500Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:23 pm

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Definitely. Zibanejad + 12thOV for Duchene + piece (2nd, or a player or something).

501Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:51 pm

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So, do you make that trade? Zib and the 12th for Duchene. Yes or no?

502Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:54 pm

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spader wrote:So, do you make that trade? Zib and the 12th for Duchene. Yes or no?

Yes. Reason: we lose nothing off our current roster, keep our 2 top prospects and upgrade Zbad in a big way - nevermind Duchene had a moderate last 2 years, the guy can hit 70 points and should be flirting with 25 goals on a par year. He's a huge upgrade.

503Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 3:57 pm

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spader wrote:So, do you make that trade? Zib and the 12th for Duchene. Yes or no?

I think it's an "overpayment" but I also think Duchene is more likely to make players around him better. So an enthusiastic "HYUSS."

504Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:20 pm

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The Avs want a dman for Duchene.

505Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:24 pm

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Zibanejad and the 12th OV is a lot though, they can parlay the 12th into a D-man if they want. Or draft one of the D-men who fall to them.

506Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:28 pm

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PTFlea wrote:Zibanejad and the 12th OV is a lot though, they can parlay the 12th into a D-man if they want.  Or draft one of the D-men who fall to them.
They want a dman now. Not in 3 years.

And I thin there will be better offers that will get the, their dman.

507Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:47 pm

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tim1_2 wrote:The Avs want a dman for Duchene.

I'm sure we could accommodate them.

508Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 4:58 pm

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Flo The Action wrote:
PTFlea wrote:Zibanejad and the 12th OV is a lot though, they can parlay the 12th into a D-man if they want.  Or draft one of the D-men who fall to them.
They want a dman now. Not in 3 years.

And I thin there will be better offers that will get the, their dman.

Perhaps...I'd settle for Eriksson and not give any assets up. Is that possible? Ahhhhh!

509Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:16 pm

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All of the rumored teams for Stamkos are in the Atlantic (Montreal, Detroit, Buffalo, Toronto, TB). Too bad Ottawa isn't in there. Cap space available and the need.

I also thought it would be Detroit months ago.

510Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:22 pm

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I have no interest in stamkos even if he wants interested in us

511Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:34 pm

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I would be interested in stamkos. It would make Zib tradeable for a package to get a top LW

512Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:44 pm

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dennycrane wrote:All of the rumored teams for Stamkos are in the Atlantic (Montreal, Detroit, Buffalo, Toronto, TB). Too bad Ottawa isn't in there. Cap space available and the need.

I also thought it would be Detroit months ago.

I say Stamkos ends up with the Panthers. A young team with lots of cap space and he remains in warm Florida where he can still go out without getting harassed by fans.

513Off Season Rumours - Page 34 Empty Re: Off Season Rumours Fri Jun 17, 2016 5:49 pm

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Hobiesens wrote:
dennycrane wrote:All of the rumored teams for Stamkos are in the Atlantic (Montreal, Detroit, Buffalo, Toronto, TB). Too bad Ottawa isn't in there. Cap space available and the need.

I also thought it would be Detroit months ago.

I say Stamkos ends up with the Panthers. A young team with lots of cap space and he remains in warm Florida where he can still go out without getting harassed by fans.
I'm not sure where he fits in on the roster but they are definitely clearing cap space for something.

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