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SpezDispensed wrote:

wprager wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:No one who knows one iota about hockey could possible argue that.

Here's your choices (and you can pick 2):

Dzingel
Paul
Prince

Argue what?

As for picking two of the three, Paul (like his size) and for the other one need to know what I'm picking for.  I like Dzingel's hustle out there but he is really small and his skill isn't quite there yet.  Energy line?  I'd take Dzingle.  Top-six role?  Probably just wait for another choice.  Third line, I probably take Prince.

Argue that there are other players that the coaching staff and management likes better.  We're flush with tweeners.

And Dzingel is so much better than Prince, it's not even funny.  More tenacious on the puck, a battler, hits, gets to the front of the net, comparable speed.

Prince was lapped by other prospects and that was the end of that.

I wouldn't go so far as saying "so much better than Prince". I like his hustle but that's about it. And I'll remind you yet again, I don't really like Prince. I don't dislike him but I was never pulling for him (certainly not like you've been pulling for Dzingel). Personally, I don't see anything special with Dzingle that I haven't seen in any number of call ups. I think you would have seen more from Prince if he had stayed in Bingo and was called up, problem was with his waiver status.

Anyhow, Prince, an offensive player, was playing on a 4th line and still produced OK numbers in points, and was very strong in possession and shot attempts.

Tell you what, instead of trying to compare him to Dzingel, why not try Chiasson?

tim1_2 wrote:We signed SCOTT GOMEZ??

Finally! We can stop talking about Prince.

Maximize the value. Go out and spend the assets needed to upgrade the 1C position and push Turris down. It's not that ZBad is poor, but he's not a 1C and as good as Turris is, you need someone to insulate him.

Same old story...they must realize they need to do it.

tim1_2 wrote:Can't wait to read the whiney tweets about why did we sign Gomez when we had Prince on the bench.  

Anyway, yeah, this is at least trying SOMETHING with a guy that put up a bunch of points in pro hockey over the last couple of months.

I'd argue the catalyst for signing Gomez was MacArthur's failed baseline. They fully expected him back tomorrow. Gomez can play either center or wing, veteran presence.

Michallica wrote:Wait till Zib gets to 50 points....and then form the template for a Zibby for Giroux deal

Interesting to hear about Scott Gomez signing.  Maybe he can help our dreadful power play.  Sucks about Macarthur, but I too would advise him to shut it down.  We're likely not in the race anymore two weeks from now.

Also, despite the awesome comeback last night to salvage a point, we actually lost ground last night on Boston, the closest team in the standings base don games played  

Gained one on the Pens -- the team we're closest to.

I'm gonna say this though. I've been a Boro supported (for the most part) but it should be Stone wearing that 'A', not Boro. Heart and soul player we got in Mark Stone (and how can we ever justify paying Hoffman more than this guy?)

Flo The Action wrote:Personally I'd rather see the kids play, even if it means loosing games. Which I don't think Scott will change much in that realm.

The kids are playing...in Binghamton...and even that seems over their heads!

SeawaySensFan wrote:Hehe. Still arguing about Prince? If ever there was a player fans should be indifferent about...

Bingo.

Michallica wrote:I'm gonna say this though.  I've been a Boro supported (for the most part) but it should be Stone wearing that 'A', not Boro.  Heart and soul player we got in Mark Stone (and how can we ever justify paying Hoffman more than this guy?)

That's exactly the thing. Hoffman's skill set is nice, but when he's not scoring he's not doing much. When Stone's not scoring, he's going into corners, taking pucks away, making plays.

When we get a top line C, look out. Stone's gonna be a destroyer.

We have a top line centre. Name is Turris.

Ev wrote:We have a top line centre. Name is Turris.

You want to win a Cup? Then Turris is your 2C IMO. Or 1B, whatever you want to call it.

Nah, Turris is fine as a #1 C. Just needs good support from wingers and also we need a legit #2 C, which is the role ZBad is struggling with.

Ev wrote:We have a top line centre. Name is Turris.

If Zibanejad was equal to Turris then we'd be OK with those two as 1C-2C. And if Turris was Crosby then we'd be fine with ZBad as the 2C. So does anyone still hold out hope that Zibanejad will continue to (slowly) develop? Or do you think this is his ceiling already?

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:We have a top line centre. Name is Turris.

If Zibanejad was equal to Turris then we'd be OK with those two as 1C-2C.  And if Turris was Crosby then we'd be fine with ZBad as the 2C.  So does anyone still hold out hope that Zibanejad will continue to (slowly) develop?  Or do you think this is his ceiling already?

Zbad is a legit 2C on any team. Turris could be a better 1c but we have a lot of centre depth so I think we're OK

wprager wrote:

Ev wrote:We have a top line centre. Name is Turris.

If Zibanejad was equal to Turris then we'd be OK with those two as 1C-2C.  And if Turris was Crosby then we'd be fine with ZBad as the 2C.  So does anyone still hold out hope that Zibanejad will continue to (slowly) develop?  Or do you think this is his ceiling already?

He is only 22.

I know his age, I was asking if people thought he was still improving or if this was it. He may only be 22 but most players break out in year 3/4.

rooneypoo wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:24 pts in 20 games with Hershey over the past couple months.

He'd be ineligible for the playoffs should we qualify.

Pretty limited options for adding a substitute top 9 C at this stage of the season.... But, playoffs or no, this is, in the end, just a stop gap to lessen the hurt of losing Turris at such an inopportune time. At least BM is trying to do something to fill Turris's void.

Heh It's a bit unusual as a rehab technique, but whatever works, I guess.

Perron with a 5 point game, now has 97 points in 55 games in the Q.