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SpezDispensed wrote:How do we get a dman to play big minutes on pairing 2?

SeawaySensFan wrote:

SpezDispensed wrote:How do we get a dman to play big minutes on pairing 2?

Goals against is a team stat so everyone needs to do what they can to limit shots against. Defend better, have the puck more, spend more time in the offensive zone. Whatever it takes.

LeCaptain wrote:And to think some of you wanted to trade Methot last year

tim1_2 wrote:A lot of things likely play into a high shooting %.  I think it's too simple to just say, "ahhh, they'll regress to the mean."

Ottawa is guilty sometimes of over-passing the puck.  Maybe they are simply more selective with shooting opportunities and prefer to make an extra pass to look for a great scoring chance?  This leads to fewer shots, but the ones that they do take have a greater chance of going in.  

Also, we have some guys with pretty great shots that can pick their spots: Turris, Stone, Hoffman...even Karlsson.

tim1_2 wrote:A lot of things likely play into a high shooting %.  I think it's too simple to just say, "ahhh, they'll regress to the mean."

Ottawa is guilty sometimes of over-passing the puck.  Maybe they are simply more selective with shooting opportunities and prefer to make an extra pass to look for a great scoring chance?  This leads to fewer shots, but the ones that they do take have a greater chance of going in.  

Also, we have some guys with pretty great shots that can pick their spots: Turris, Stone, Hoffman...even Karlsson.

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:A lot of things likely play into a high shooting %.  I think it's too simple to just say, "ahhh, they'll regress to the mean."

Ottawa is guilty sometimes of over-passing the puck.  Maybe they are simply more selective with shooting opportunities and prefer to make an extra pass to look for a great scoring chance?  This leads to fewer shots, but the ones that they do take have a greater chance of going in.  

Also, we have some guys with pretty great shots that can pick their spots: Turris, Stone, Hoffman...even Karlsson.

We should be thankful to wprager for showing us how useless a lot of these stats are.

It's like in baseball. You can't give a team 37 outs, you have to give a team 27 outs. Sometimes when you give up a few more chances than you want to, it just hurts you.

wprager wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:A lot of things likely play into a high shooting %.  I think it's too simple to just say, "ahhh, they'll regress to the mean."

Ottawa is guilty sometimes of over-passing the puck.  Maybe they are simply more selective with shooting opportunities and prefer to make an extra pass to look for a great scoring chance?  This leads to fewer shots, but the ones that they do take have a greater chance of going in.  

Also, we have some guys with pretty great shots that can pick their spots: Turris, Stone, Hoffman...even Karlsson.

We should be thankful to wprager for showing us how useless a lot of these stats are.

Just what the Diddle is your problem, anyway?  Why not contribute in a meaningful way *once* in a while.  If you don't like stats, that's fine, but what else do you talk about when there's a 3-day gap between games?  

LeCaptain wrote:And to think some of you wanted to trade Methot last year

wprager wrote:

SeawaySensFan wrote:

tim1_2 wrote:A lot of things likely play into a high shooting %.  I think it's too simple to just say, "ahhh, they'll regress to the mean."

Ottawa is guilty sometimes of over-passing the puck.  Maybe they are simply more selective with shooting opportunities and prefer to make an extra pass to look for a great scoring chance?  This leads to fewer shots, but the ones that they do take have a greater chance of going in.  

Also, we have some guys with pretty great shots that can pick their spots: Turris, Stone, Hoffman...even Karlsson.

We should be thankful to wprager for showing us how useless a lot of these stats are.

Just what the Diddle is your problem, anyway?  Why not contribute in a meaningful way *once* in a while.  If you don't like stats, that's fine, but what else do you talk about when there's a 3-day gap between games?  

wprager wrote:One more sleep before the Sens play again.  Here's an interesting stat to ponder:

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/stats/team-pdo-numbers-save-plus-shooting-percentage/2015/

Ottawa is third in team PDO.  PDO is simply the sum of your shooting percentage and your SV%.  These numbers tend to usually regress to the mean, which would be 100.  A PDO of around 104 is considered pretty high and usually not sustainable over the course of a full season.  The Rangers lead with a PDO of 104.6 -- not very long ago they were even higher than that.  Down Goes Brown recently wrote an article about how Washington may actually be the team to watch in the East, and not the Rangers or Montreal.  One of the reasons he listed in knocking the Rangers down a bit was their very high PDO.  Washington is 5th in the league -- the implication was that the Rangers and Montreal -- they sit second -- are doing it with "smoke-and-mirrors", relying too much on unsustainably high shooting percentage and great goaltending, while the Caps are doing it by simply outplaying their opposition.

Not sure what to think about the Sens being 3rd.  Clearly they are there because they are winning despite routinely being outshot.  So a high shooting percentage and a high SV%.  Their team SV% is .920 which is not outrageous (6th highest in the league).  The team shooting percentage is 2nd only to the Habs (11.25 versus 11.56).  But here's an interesting twist on things:

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nhl/teams/4967/ottawa-senators/#Shooting%20%25$SeasonMax=9999&SeasonMin=1900

The high shooting percentage is actually a trend over the last three seasons.  Back in 2012 they hit rock bottom at 7%, then went up to 8.5 and 9.1 in successive seasons, before zooming over 11 this season.  We're just at the quarter mark so it's still considered early, but three years of improvement in a row isn't coincidence, it's trend.  

wprager wrote:That wasn't rage, that was indignation.