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Ottawa Senators (present and past) TIDBITS & QUICK HITS!

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Ev


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they wouldn't love Lazar so much if they thought he was going to b ea third line centre. Remember, they;ve gone on record saying he could score 30 goals one day

NEELY


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I'm just gonna watch the games and enjoy them for what they are. No point in breaking anything down on a team that's going to get a big make over in the next 2, 3 weeks.

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I'll believe the makeover when I see it.

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I said that about Spezza being traded, I said that about Phillips being a healthy scratch. The changes are coming but it can't be done at the snap of a finger.

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That's not even mentioning the entire city and league know the Sens will have a new GM in less than 6 months as well.

Ev

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NEELY wrote:That's not even mentioning the entire city and league know the Sens will have a new GM in less than 6 months as well.

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Ev wrote:they wouldn't love Lazar so much if they thought he was going to b ea third line centre. Remember, they;ve gone on record saying he could score 30 goals one day

Pretty sure everyone in the city loved Fisher. Fisher peaked at 25 goals, 53 points in Ottawa. No reason Lazar can't put up those numbers. 30+ goals may be a stretch.

And to Neely's point about a big makeover, I think BM will deal some extra pieces out for picks (Legwand, Wiercioch/Gryba, Neil, Smith) but we probably won't see that big makeover until the off-season, though I do think they should strike now and go into next season knowing exactly what you have.

Ex: I'd give Stewart a test run. He doesn't look good over the next 25-30 games, don't re-sign him.

Ex: I'd make a blockbuster trade now so you give your players something positive going into the off-season (ie: Kane, Hall, Eberle, etc)

Ev

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Ev wrote:they wouldn't love Lazar so much if they thought he was going to b ea third line centre. Remember, they;ve gone on record saying he could score 30 goals one day

Pretty sure everyone in the city loved Fisher. Fisher peaked at 25 goals, 53 points in Ottawa. No reason Lazar can't put up those numbers. 30+ goals may be a stretch.

And to Neely's point about a big makeover, I think BM will deal some extra pieces out for picks (Legwand, Wiercioch/Gryba, Neil, Smith) but we probably won't see that big makeover until the off-season, though I do think they should strike now and go into next season knowing exactly what you have.

Ex: I'd give Stewart a test run. He doesn't look good over the next 25-30 games, don't re-sign him.

Ex: I'd make a blockbuster trade now so you give your players something positive going into the off-season (ie: Kane, Hall, Eberle, etc)

Fisher also isn't a third line centre.

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Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Ev wrote:they wouldn't love Lazar so much if they thought he was going to b ea third line centre. Remember, they;ve gone on record saying he could score 30 goals one day

Pretty sure everyone in the city loved Fisher. Fisher peaked at 25 goals, 53 points in Ottawa. No reason Lazar can't put up those numbers. 30+ goals may be a stretch.

And to Neely's point about a big makeover, I think BM will deal some extra pieces out for picks (Legwand, Wiercioch/Gryba, Neil, Smith) but we probably won't see that big makeover until the off-season, though I do think they should strike now and go into next season knowing exactly what you have.

Ex: I'd give Stewart a test run. He doesn't look good over the next 25-30 games, don't re-sign him.

Ex: I'd make a blockbuster trade now so you give your players something positive going into the off-season (ie: Kane, Hall, Eberle, etc)

Fisher also isn't a third line centre.

He was for long stretches in Ottawa. And even if he wasn't, on paper he's a two-way, 3rd line center.

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You know what also grinds my gears about this team, the inability to win faceoffs. Turris blames his size a lot, but Pageau is leading the team in winning percentage? Turris, Zib both need to start winning some draws - it'll lead to more goal scoring and better possession numbers

Ev

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Ev wrote:they wouldn't love Lazar so much if they thought he was going to b ea third line centre. Remember, they;ve gone on record saying he could score 30 goals one day

Pretty sure everyone in the city loved Fisher. Fisher peaked at 25 goals, 53 points in Ottawa. No reason Lazar can't put up those numbers. 30+ goals may be a stretch.

And to Neely's point about a big makeover, I think BM will deal some extra pieces out for picks (Legwand, Wiercioch/Gryba, Neil, Smith) but we probably won't see that big makeover until the off-season, though I do think they should strike now and go into next season knowing exactly what you have.

Ex: I'd give Stewart a test run. He doesn't look good over the next 25-30 games, don't re-sign him.

Ex: I'd make a blockbuster trade now so you give your players something positive going into the off-season (ie: Kane, Hall, Eberle, etc)

Fisher also isn't a third line centre.

He was for long stretches in Ottawa. And even if he wasn't, on paper he's a two-way, 3rd line center.

What does that mean, on paper? Becausr on paper, right now, he's a 1st line centre this year

PTFlea

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Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Ev wrote:
DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:
Ev wrote:they wouldn't love Lazar so much if they thought he was going to b ea third line centre. Remember, they;ve gone on record saying he could score 30 goals one day

Pretty sure everyone in the city loved Fisher. Fisher peaked at 25 goals, 53 points in Ottawa. No reason Lazar can't put up those numbers. 30+ goals may be a stretch.

And to Neely's point about a big makeover, I think BM will deal some extra pieces out for picks (Legwand, Wiercioch/Gryba, Neil, Smith) but we probably won't see that big makeover until the off-season, though I do think they should strike now and go into next season knowing exactly what you have.

Ex: I'd give Stewart a test run. He doesn't look good over the next 25-30 games, don't re-sign him.

Ex: I'd make a blockbuster trade now so you give your players something positive going into the off-season (ie: Kane, Hall, Eberle, etc)

Fisher also isn't a third line centre.

He was for long stretches in Ottawa. And even if he wasn't, on paper he's a two-way, 3rd line center.

What does that mean, on paper? Becausr on paper, right now, he's a 1st line centre this year

I don't know about that. A 2nd line C more like it.

PTFlea

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DefenceWinsChampionships wrote:You know what also grinds my gears about this team, the inability to win faceoffs. Turris blames his size a lot, but Pageau is leading the team in winning percentage? Turris, Zib both need to start winning some draws - it'll lead to more goal scoring and better possession numbers

Absolutely. A big problem until they learn to win them.

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
NEELY wrote:And now we went to the other extreme which is also wrong.

If the team were run as SSF wishes, our average age would be 35 and we'd never roster anyone under 29. And we'd trade all draft picks and kids for more old guys. There's the winning recipe!

I just don't think our "young guns" are as high a calibre as some think.

And while I don't think a roster with an average age of 35 assures success, I suspect that our current crop of youngsters will get better (dramatic pause) with age.

It's not just age, it's age and experience. I wonder how one gains both in this league? By playing, maybe?

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rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
NEELY wrote:And now we went to the other extreme which is also wrong.

If the team were run as SSF wishes, our average age would be 35 and we'd never roster anyone under 29. And we'd trade all draft picks and kids for more old guys. There's the winning recipe!

I just don't think our "young guns" are as high a calibre as some think.

And while I don't think a roster with an average age of 35 assures success, I suspect that our current crop of youngsters will get better (dramatic pause) with age.

It's not just age, it's age and experience. I wonder how one gains both in this league? By playing, maybe?

I suppose I should have spelled that out. I thought it was an easy assumption.

rooneypoo

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SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
SeawaySensFan wrote:
rooneypoo wrote:
NEELY wrote:And now we went to the other extreme which is also wrong.

If the team were run as SSF wishes, our average age would be 35 and we'd never roster anyone under 29. And we'd trade all draft picks and kids for more old guys. There's the winning recipe!

I just don't think our "young guns" are as high a calibre as some think.

And while I don't think a roster with an average age of 35 assures success, I suspect that our current crop of youngsters will get better (dramatic pause) with age.

It's not just age, it's age and experience. I wonder how one gains both in this league? By playing, maybe?

I suppose I should have spelled that out. I thought it was an easy assumption.

Hence, why you play Lazar over Legwand, Boro over Phillips, and so on. We're a super young team, and we're going to be like that for a while -- HAVE to be like that for a while if you are of the opinion, as our management clearly is, that our kids are going to be good NHLers in due time. What this fan base needs more than anything at this stage is patience.

PTFlea

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Also because Legwand and Phillips suck like a vacuum.

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When we're gonna have a D-corps like the Preds, I will maybe throw the word awesome around some of our players. When we're fighting for a top 5 pick and every single one of our D-men get exposed every single night, let's just admit the awesome-ness is in the horizon not in front of our eyes.

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